Casino Rama 2/5. 3rd hand at this table. It's 10:30am and this is the only table that has been open all night. Villain in this hand is a middle aged, overweight white guy who doesn't look too solid at first glance. I'm yelling (talking loudly) and being a little arrogant. I got in a little bit of averbal fight with two old regs (I think they were regs) regarding a seat change after my first hand, on of whom is the villain.

Effective stacks ~520

Hero 10 10

2 limps, Hero raises to 30, blinds fold limpers call

Flop
(90) -> after rake
10 4 2

2 checks, Hero bets 60, 1 fold, 1 call

Turn
(210)
5

Villain checks, Hero bets 100. Villains calls. At this point I put villain on 55-99 or something like 35s. Probably should have bet slightly more.

River
(410)
6

Villain checks, Hero????

I'm trying to put villain on a hand that calls u here (that u beat.) If u think this guy might make a 'spite' call because of ur recent interaction with him then I guess u can fire but I don't really see any overpair, TP or 2P hands in his range (maybe TP but three tens are accounted for.)

would take big history and image to get any value whatsoever on this river so check.

I'll prolly get flamed for this, but would it make sense to bet the river and show, thus getting more credit for our 3-barrels in the future?

You are only getting called by better or raised in this situation, unless you have some good knowledge of your opponent.

I like the idea of a thin value bet, and I definitely think that is something I need to work on as well. But I don't think this spot warrants it. I am checking.

If anyone thinks this is a good spot for thin value, please enlighten us why.

Well, the way villian played it 2 hearts seems unlikely unless he had straight draw like you said. So it seems like your only beat by 3-5 and you beat hands like other sets, even though it would be strange if he played it this way. Overpairs will call you down on flop and turn, not fearing that initial board. River may even kill your action if you value bet, especially if villian only has one pair. I think it is possible for you to get called here on a value bet depending on the player. Your only beat by 1 or 2 hands that make sense for him to have and way ahead of every other hand besides those. Flopping top set is a great situation on an unpaired board, i would bet like 150 on the river and hope he makes a loose call with KK

Edit: after relooking at the hand A-3 makes sense for him to have, limping first and then calling PF, check calling the flop with 1 overpair to board and gutshot, making his straight on turn and checking to induce bet, and maybe trying to get you to fire again on river? or maybe scared of the heart?

so KK limp-calls, check-calls, check-calls and then check-calls the river?

haha, yeah your saying you have never seen it? I have seen it plently of times unfortunately. Guy limped-called a raise with AA in position, called the turn and called the river against me when a flush got there. I was surprised but it happens.

Hero ships hoping this donk will snap with some TPGK or any pp lower than 1010, including the ones that made sets.

Donk snaps the ship with KhQh

GG me.

guess ur turn bet was perfect lol

Turn bet is way too small. You could still gay bet the river for thin value IMO.

bet turn bigger and shove river

this is not thin

I find it interesting that many people will say live players are so bad because they do stupid things like limp calling TT+ or slowplaying big hands, that you can't get people to fold TP, that just can't lay down their BPP despite they know they are beat, etc, etc.

But yet we get the perfect situation where the OP has the virtual nuts on the flop, has a great game dynamic where the villain might be looking to "punish" the hero for past perceived slights, and yet so many think this is anything but a value bet here.

As the results show, the villain in this hand was not really thinking, and should have found the fold button OTF, got a break with the turn bet sizing and managed to donk his way into the best hand.

IMO this is the perfect spot to take advantage of the classic "can't fold a overpair" villain. When we hit the flop hard, its pot, pot, AI playing for stacks.