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09-13-2010 , 01:50 AM
is it a rule that you have to have your chips stacked or could you have them in a big pile, purely for the sake of being a douche?

i understand that its proper etiquette to stack you chips in preferably 20 stacks so it easier for opponents to count your chips.
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09-13-2010 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandJambi
is it a rule that you have to have your chips stacked or could you have them in a big pile, purely for the sake of being a douche?

i understand that its proper etiquette to stack you chips in preferably 20 stacks so it easier for opponents to count your chips.
It's not a rule but you are a giant douche IMO if you hide how much you're playing. I don't need a count, but put all your big chips up top and in front, and tell me how high your stacks are.
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09-13-2010 , 02:24 AM
Your opponent can count your chips for as long as he likes or ask the dealer to do so, so if you insist on making it hard to count and won't help, then he will just have to resort to getting it counted slowly, which will slow down the game. Loss-loss scenario, really.
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09-13-2010 , 09:09 AM
Don't be a douche...

...stacks of 20 are preferable (30 or 40 are ok as well but 20's are better.)

And pay attention to the game and stop making designs with ur fcuking chips!
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09-13-2010 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandJambi
is it a rule that you have to have your chips stacked or could you have them in a big pile, purely for the sake of being a douche?

i understand that its proper etiquette to stack you chips in preferably 20 stacks so it easier for opponents to count your chips.
i was once at a very shady live home game where a drunk douchebag had about 1000 in $5 chips in a huge pile because he thought it was so hilarious and everyone at the table took like 10-15 dollars (not me though) when he was on a beer break.


moral of the story: their is an selfish motive for stacking chips correctly. dealer could short you, take too much rake, you could drop chips and not realize it, get incorrect change and just a lot of bad things can happen. you always want to know how much you have.
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09-13-2010 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandJambi
is it a rule that you have to have your chips stacked or could you have them in a big pile, purely for the sake of being a douche?

i understand that its proper etiquette to stack you chips in preferably 20 stacks so it easier for opponents to count your chips.
Depends on the room rather its a rule or not. In rooms that have a long history of spreading big bet poker, it will be a rule. Rooms that do not have a long history with big bet poker will not understand the impact of not having chips stacked and allow it.
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09-13-2010 , 07:21 PM
I always collect as many of the 100 and 500 chips as I can so my stack is as small as possible. Not sure if it makes people notice the size of my stack less, but I prefer stacks of 10s and 8s for 25s personally. If I am bored I will start building pyramids or walls though.
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09-13-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Artemis Apollo
I always collect as many of the 100 and 500 chips as I can
I am also a whore for big chips
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09-13-2010 , 08:05 PM
To be honest I was just making a thinly veiled brag.
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09-13-2010 , 11:39 PM
Even if is a rule, it would be rarely enforced or enforceable. Chip stacking is a tell and if you are willing to play against that tell, it wouldn't be a bad move if you don't mind being considered a douche if you have messy chips.
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09-14-2010 , 12:07 AM
I stack my chips in 5s and never shuffle if I'm at a table with people that don't know who I am. Also when I count out $100+ bets I like to stack the $5 in twos when I count them out (if no1 knows me at the table)
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09-14-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Even if is a rule, it would be rarely enforced or enforceable. Chip stacking is a tell and if you are willing to play against that tell, it wouldn't be a bad move if you don't mind being considered a douche if you have messy chips.
Nah, you need to stack you chips in a big bet game, there are just too many problems artificially created by not keeping chips in stacks.

tl;dr Letting messy piles of chips play in a big bet game only serves to introduce angle shoot opportunities and dramatically slows the game down. The room loses money from the reduced hands per hour, players lose money because of the reduced hands per hour. The game tends to go from a "happy and loose" table to a grumpy mess with everyone getting pissed and tighten up or leaving. This is why any room with any real big bet poker experience will have and enforce a rule about stacking chips.

E.g. #1 OTF A bets $100, B (who has a messy pile of chips) announces AI...

Now several things can happen...
  • Player A insta calls the AI, only to lose the pot, and realize that he just called for all of his chips because he thought "he only had about $500 there and not $2000". So the floor has a "fun" ruling to make.
  • Player A insta call the AI and wins the pot. Player B refused to pay saying he did not call, did not move any chips into the pot. Yet another "fun" ruling for the floor.

E.g. #1 OTF its a HU pot, player A has the messy pile of chips, and grabs a fistful of chips and slides the small pile in his hand out for a bet, player B clearly announces "CALL" and starts to move a stack of chips out, assuming the dealer will count the bet and take enough chips from his stack to call and return the rest.

Opps, player B now learns that he just called a $465 bet instead of what he thought was <$150 based on the size of the pile. Yep there were some blacks in the grab, neither player know that, but player does not object now that he sees the reaction of the caller. Yet another "fun" ruling for the floor to make.

E.g. #3 Player A has a messy pile of chips and has gotten in the habit of seperating out a smaller pile and moving that smaller pile out as his bet. The table is smart enough not to fall into the problems demonstrated in #1 or #2, but now the dealer has to stack and count every bet, while the action is frozen because no one wants to end up calling/raising a bet they do not know the amount of.

BTW, all three "examples" are from RL experiences...
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09-14-2010 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
I stack my chips in 5s and never shuffle if I'm at a table with people that don't know who I am. Also when I count out $100+ bets I like to stack the $5 in twos when I count them out (if no1 knows me at the table)
because anyone that can shuffle checks is a super pro ldo
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09-14-2010 , 01:05 AM
yes





that was a stupid question.
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09-30-2010 , 03:20 PM
Step 1) win pot

Step 2) scoop chips into giant pile

Step 3) when someone asks, "how many chips you got?" you reply...

SUCK IT EASY SLUTS!
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10-01-2010 , 08:18 AM
Wow, (over the course of 24 hours) I followed that link, read 3 huge pages, checked that post's OP's posts, read stuff in those, arrived back here, and then realized what happened.

Thank you Zolzan for that epic journey. SIES
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