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Shot taking 3/5 deep stack, 4 to a straight Shot taking 3/5 deep stack, 4 to a straight

04-20-2022 , 12:35 AM
Hero is taking a shot at the 3/5 deep stack. Because of this he’s got a table full of unknowns. Have only been there 20 mins - Max buyin is 1500.

HJ - Villian in question young 20s hoodie and Fanny pack across the chest - $4500

Sb - Young 20 year old who just sat $900

Button - Hero - $2000 (in for 1500 and up a few hands - table has no reads on me other than my shakey hands. )

Fold to Villain who open limps Hj.

Hero opens to $25 with 9s9c on the BTN

SB calls, Vil. Calls

Flop ($80)- 5h 6c 8d

SB checks , Vil (HJ) checks, Hero bets $45

SB folds, Vil Calls

Turn ($170) 4s

Vil Checks

Not super fond of the turn. A lot of his pair and straight draw combos now got there as did more 2 pair combos. I still have a draw to a straight with the gutter ball and could still have the best hand, so I elect to pot control and check it back.

River ($170) 9h. Vil bets $250

Hero?
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04-20-2022 , 12:49 AM
I like a call as you now beat some of his value hands vs your perceived range of TT+, AJ+. Sure he has plenty of straights here, but he also has tons of 2pr and even 44-66 that can take this sizing.

Nh, wp.
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04-20-2022 , 01:20 AM
yep, not folding top set here. if you're beat you're beat but...meh

as an aside, if you're shot taking another level...do you need to buy in 300bb deep? only you know if you're comfortable playing with what is 750bb deep at 1/2, but I would prolly be buying in for 100 or 150bb at a shot take
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04-20-2022 , 01:59 AM
I wouldn’t put much two pair in villain’s range when he bets that size on this board.
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04-20-2022 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
yep, not folding top set here. if you're beat you're beat but...meh

as an aside, if you're shot taking another level...do you need to buy in 300bb deep? only you know if you're comfortable playing with what is 750bb deep at 1/2, but I would prolly be buying in for 100 or 150bb at a shot take
You aren’t wrong but talked myself into playing deeper so that I could navigate better. I play a LAG style that seems to work incredibly well for me, but tends to give my starting stack some small swings.

I think if I were to play again I should just do 500-800 and NIT up until I’m comfortable at the table.
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04-20-2022 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by the_dude_174
even 44-66 that can take this sizing.

Nh, wp.
Can you explain this a little more for me please. How does the overbet shout 44-66. How can I use similar sizing in the future when I’m putting opponents on weaker 2 pair etc hands and can legitimately make an overbet.
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04-20-2022 , 08:39 AM
99 is basically the best hand you'll ever have in this spot, right? Sometimes maybe one would check back a straight on the turn but probably not very often when playing this deep. Seems like this would be a must call for hero in that case. Not sure if villain would value-bet a worse hand than 99 for this size, but it would make some sense as it's going to be pretty hard for you to have a straight after checking back the turn.
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04-20-2022 , 10:27 AM
Sigh call against an unknown. Villain's river bet is pretty polarized, either he has two pair+ or is bluffing. The thing is you beat all of his big hands except the straights and all of the bluffs. This could be a fairly easy fold against a known villain because you block the hands with a nine that might have stuck around. Against an unknown your hand is too good to give up.
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04-20-2022 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by the_dude_174
I like a call as you now beat some of his value hands vs your perceived range of TT+, AJ+. Sure he has plenty of straights here, but he also has tons of 2pr and even 44-66 that can take this sizing.

Nh, wp.
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Originally Posted by Bigpants
Can you explain this a little more for me please. How does the overbet shout 44-66. How can I use similar sizing in the future when I’m putting opponents on weaker 2 pair etc hands and can legitimately make an overbet.
I don't really think it shouts 44-66. I'm just saying he can have it here some (relatively small but non-zero) % of the time.

I am not an authority on when/why to overbet. I rarely do it. I just think his range is all hands that make it to the turn that now beat AA. That's a lot of 2pr and sets, so I call. That doesn't even include any spaz.
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04-21-2022 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the_dude_174
I like a call as you now beat some of his value hands vs your perceived range of TT+, AJ+. Sure he has plenty of straights here, but he also has tons of 2pr and even 44-66 that can take this sizing.

Nh, wp.
This

Also, would go closer to 40 pre since you are pretty deep

Last edited by Double K; 04-21-2022 at 11:09 AM.
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04-22-2022 , 03:47 PM
This is a must call for the reasons stated.
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04-23-2022 , 03:00 PM
Results?
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