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06-10-2022 , 10:52 PM
700 effective at decently tough 2/5 home game

Reads on self are that I seem to be playing tight ,but really has been quite card dead most of the night. I am the youngest guy there by far at the age of 21 (if that really means anything) but everyone else seems to be mid 30s-40s. I’ve had a pretty good winrate playing at a very fishy 1/2 game and decided that my bankroll could allow a two buy in shot at 2/5. I am from Minnesota so we only have 2-100 spread at a casino.


LJ Limps, hero raises to 20 with Red AA button (villain) calls , aggro SB calls, limper calls

Pot 80 post rake

Flop 6c4c4s

Checks to villain who bets 20

Main villain raises to 55

Reads on this villain is that he has the potential to be aggressive and put you in tough spots. Seems to have a looser than GTO range pre, but not super out of line loose

Hero has a fairly straightforward call

Pot is 190
Turn comes Js

Hero x
Villain bets 120

Hero calls
Pot is 430
River 2c

Final board is 6c4c4sJs2c
Hero x
Villain goes all in for like 495 effective

Hero?

My initial thoughts were that a lot of villains bluffs now got there being random Broadway clubs. I do not have a club in my hand. Would I be over folding if I decided to fold this hand? Should I call off if I had a club? Should I have done something different on the turn? Like check raise all in?

Thanks for the help guys


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06-10-2022 , 11:19 PM
I think we butchered the hand right from the start by not betting out OTF so your hand is severely underreped.

There’s a lot of strength coming from main villain who 3bet! Into 3 people.

if you’ve seen main villain do this before with his nut draws (which you unblock) then fine, we can call down. The River is about the worst card in the deck for you and is a fold AP.
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06-10-2022 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tischydish
700 effective at decently tough 2/5 home game

Reads on self are that I seem to be playing tight ,but really has been quite card dead most of the night. I am the youngest guy there by far at the age of 21 (if that really means anything) but everyone else seems to be mid 30s-40s. I’ve had a pretty good winrate playing at a very fishy 1/2 game and decided that my bankroll could allow a two buy in shot at 2/5. I am from Minnesota so we only have 2-100 spread at a casino.


LJ Limps, hero raises to 20 with Red AA button (villain) calls , aggro SB calls, limper calls

Pot 80 post rake

Flop 6c4c4s

Checks to villain who bets 20

Main villain raises to 55

Reads on this villain is that he has the potential to be aggressive and put you in tough spots. Seems to have a looser than GTO range pre, but not super out of line loose

Hero has a fairly straightforward call

Pot is 190
Turn comes Js

Hero x
Villain bets 120

Hero calls
Pot is 430
River 2c

Final board is 6c4c4sJs2c
Hero x
Villain goes all in for like 495 effective

Hero?

My initial thoughts were that a lot of villains bluffs now got there being random Broadway clubs. I do not have a club in my hand. Would I be over folding if I decided to fold this hand? Should I call off if I had a club? Should I have done something different on the turn? Like check raise all in?

Thanks for the help guys


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Sorry one typo guys. Meant to type checks to HERO on the flop, and HERO bets 20


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06-10-2022 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigpants
I think we butchered the hand right from the start by not betting out OTF so your hand is severely underreped.

There’s a lot of strength coming from main villain who 3bet! Into 3 people.

if you’ve seen main villain do this before with his nut draws (which you unblock) then fine, we can call down. The River is about the worst card in the deck for you and is a fold AP.

Sorry, I HERO was the one who bet the flop. I mistyped


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06-10-2022 , 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tischydish
700 effective at decently tough 2/5 home game

Reads on self are that I seem to be playing tight ,but really has been quite card dead most of the night. I am the youngest guy there by far at the age of 21 (if that really means anything) but everyone else seems to be mid 30s-40s. I’ve had a pretty good winrate playing at a very fishy 1/2 game and decided that my bankroll could allow a two buy in shot at 2/5. I am from Minnesota so we only have 2-100 spread at a casino.


LJ Limps, hero raises to 20 with Red AA button (villain) calls , aggro SB calls, limper calls

Pot 80 post rake

Flop 6c4c4s

Checks to HERO who bets 20

Main villain raises to 55

Reads on this villain is that he has the potential to be aggressive and put you in tough spots. Seems to have a looser than GTO range pre, but not super out of line loose

Hero has a fairly straightforward call

Pot is 190
Turn comes Js

Hero x
Villain bets 120

Hero calls
Pot is 430
River 2c

Final board is 6c4c4sJs2c
Hero x
Villain goes all in for like 495 effective

Hero?

My initial thoughts were that a lot of villains bluffs now got there being random Broadway clubs. I do not have a club in my hand. Would I be over folding if I decided to fold this hand? Should I call off if I had a club? Should I have done something different on the turn? Like check raise all in?

Thanks for the help guys


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06-11-2022 , 12:41 AM
fold turn betting flop in the first place should be more profitable
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06-11-2022 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 240sx
fold turn betting flop in the first place should be more profitable

I did bet flop. Made a typo and said villain bet, but hero bet, villain raised.


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06-11-2022 , 06:31 AM
Your description of the ages and location of this game makes me wonder if I have ever played with one or more of these guys, including Villain.

As played I guess you have to find a fold somewhere. Where depends on how well you know Villain. By the river I don’t think this is a profitable call.
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06-11-2022 , 07:57 AM
On this flop texture, I think we should go for more value vs over pairs and draws. $75.

AP, I'd fold river w/o losing too much sleep.
Opponent was the first to act after flop action, had two players behind, so theoretically should have more value in his raising/continuing range.
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06-11-2022 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
Your description of the ages and location of this game makes me wonder if I have ever played with one or more of these guys, including Villain.

As played I guess you have to find a fold somewhere. Where depends on how well you know Villain. By the river I don’t think this is a profitable call.

I think the river should have been a fold. All the draws got there and I’m unblocking clubs. I did end up calling and loosing to Q9cc so he was bluffing the whole way, until the river where he made his flush.


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06-11-2022 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by samo
On this flop texture, I think we should go for more value vs over pairs and draws. $75.

AP, I'd fold river w/o losing too much sleep.
Opponent was the first to act after flop action, had two players behind, so theoretically should have more value in his raising/continuing range.

Villain was BTN so he has position on me


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