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07-03-2010 , 10:06 AM

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AintNoLimit

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Originally Posted by Mench

Hate river sizing. Fold to the shovel.

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07-03-2010 , 03:23 PM

#27

dankness3

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I think snappos def good enough to make a play at this river which is why it's a tough spot, but considering the size of your bet on the river and your image I think its a pretty easy fold.

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07-03-2010 , 04:54 PM

#28

AintNoLimit

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Originally Posted by Mench

Hate river sizing. Fold to the shovel.

+1 (and this isnt a blockbet)

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07-05-2010 , 03:18 PM

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Tony Tight

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why have you built a big pot with a **** hand?

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07-10-2010 , 02:46 AM

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Lieutenant Dan

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I play live mainly so I don't know who snappo is, but I'm assuming hes pretty good because you bothered to mention him. His hand looks a lot like pair plus OESD, and he'll check that back on the river every time. So i think c/f is best because you're not really giving up any value, and you're never really getting bluffed. But why minraise pre? I mean, all the cool kids do 2.5x-4x.

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08-21-2010 , 09:38 PM

#31

ojideagu

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 25

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Originally Posted by Tony Tight

why have you built a big pot with a **** hand?

Exactly!

I'm amazed how many people bet 3 streets/shove/go all in with TPTK or less. So many have the opportunity to check back the river and instead try and bet and then face a difficult re-raise.

The only hands you are beating are bluffs, as most are not calling you all the way unless they beat you. People are bluffing far less then people imagine.

Does nobody check one street anymore for fear of being bluffed off a hand or not getting value on every street?

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08-22-2010 , 02:42 AM

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Andrew Song

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,545

If ur betting river this thin against thinking player, it should be to induce a shove with worse. I'd have to think his range is alot stronger specially with the fish involved. Think c/f and b/c is both fine.

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08-22-2010 , 02:43 AM

#33

Andrew Song

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,545

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Originally Posted by RosaParks

I'm pretty sure considering the positions and people involved in the the hand that the river is a c/f.

yeah right, i'd bet large chunk of $ that river is bet/call check/snap foru. MOOO

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08-23-2010 , 11:44 AM

#34

shorn7

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,495

Well, I saw the result before I posted, but when I read the hand, my first thought was that it was unlikely we were good. The only reason i would potentially have called would be meta between you too. If I am snappo, your range looks to be AA-JJ, AT, KT, maybe QT which he destroys. Real question is would you barrel 3x with that entre range and I don[t know you well enough to say yes (given you did it with KT, I would say probably).

I think c/c river is potentially better here unless you think he would spew with lower pair + missed draws. I don't know...tough spot since the baord was kinda dryish by the end.

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