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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
I forgot to list the stack sizes, but we're 500-600 BBs deep so I'm obviously not shoving here.
I showed my hand here to basically let the table know that when I cbet on these small boards it is with an overpair and I'm not just firing with my whole range.
I called his flop check raise pretty quickly with the intention of bluffing when a heart hit the board. I considered making it $800 on the turn and shoving a non paired river when the heart peeled, but I felt like it was pretty easy to put me on a flush draw on the flop and Paul fired anyways so I figured him for a flush and folded.
Hand 2: I'm not raising AJ OOP in a multi way pot. People are limping in with better hands at this table. As I said in my other post I mistyped the river card and don't remember exactly what it was, just some blank.
Reviewing the hand, I like the way I played hand 2, but I wish I would have folded to the flop raise in hand 1. I just think folding to a flop raise here looks weak and opens my cbets up to getting checked raised by marginal hands... agree disagree? papagayin is probably right saying Paul wouldn't play back at me here with air though.
I highlighted what look to me like sizeable leaks in your game. If you are only c-betting with overpair type hands then you
want the table to think you are betting with air and call you so unless after showing you intended to start c betting more when you miss, then showing is pretty stupid.
Calling that flop is horrible with JJ. You have a big overpair and you want to start taking a bluff line? There aren't actually that many fd's in your range as the PFR aside from KQhh type hands of which there are few. All villain can have that beats your JJ is a set and I doubt a set is going to just check/fold when a flush card hits since your range is weighted more to overpairs and they have a redraw regardless.
The fact that you ditched your plan so easily when the opportunity to continue it came along really makes it seem more like you called simply because you didn't want to fold, but without a clear idea of what your plan was. Even if you intend to rep the flush, you can hardly expect paul to just check/fold once the draw gets there, and if you suddenly think its possible he has a flush then that counters your argument for not raising the flop.
For hand 2 I still think its a clear raise pre flop and I believe if you intend to call a bet on the river you should just make the bet yourself because you can get called by worse J's pretty frequently.
As played we know villain has something since he called your flop bet and I just don't think he'd play a straight draw like this, so IMO him betting on the river means either he turned mid pair on the flop into a bluff, or much more likely he can beat your 2nd pair top kicker.