I appreciate the comment and I see your point, any suggestion how to play this hand instead?

I never limp/call unless i have a pocket pair (22-66, I raise 77+) or a suited connector and 20-1. I might reduce this to 12-15 to 1 w PP if I am confident villain has a monster.

comitte villan to call then jam when we have 25% equity getting 2.5:1.

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Call or shove? If we dont think we have fold equity then call. If There is even 15% chance Villan will fold then get it in.

Shoving all-in and calling the flop bet are not the same thing if that's what you're saying. By shoving, you guarantee to see two more cards. By calling the flop raise OOP, you have a decision to make on the turn if your hand doesn't improve.

Plus, shoving has FE.

I havent read any further, but why are you putting villian on JJ+? He raised his button after a few limps. Nothing screams huge hand.

If he does have JJ-AA you're ~47/53 and you've got BB's and CO's dead money in there.

It's a shove for sure, but you could find yourself against two big diamonds

Lesson: don't give villian credit for monsters all the time and don't play small pots with sc oop

I like donking in multiway pots with draws a lot, but I think with this board, pot size and stacks, you are most likely to maximize fold equity with a check/raise on the flop and everyone bets every overpair here when checked to but like - are they gonna fold 77 to your lead? probably not. As played I just ship ofc.

Easy ship. Crai is my preferred option. Dont worry about the bare nut flush draw (no pair) as he's still only 70% with it. You're 47% to win if he hasnt got set/nfd coupled with that you must have at least 4% fe making you a favourite over time

For those of you contemplating shove, what hands are villain folding beyond an unlikely bluff?

You say we're flipping with AA, but where are we against AKdd or any other higher FD? You're basically shoving with 7 high. And if villain is willing to gamble, we're in awful shape.

However...

it's exactly the size of villain's flop raise that makes me want to shove over him. It screams middle pair or a FD, and weakness that is looking for a cheap river. He may not be willing to gamble for stacks on a non-nut FD. And that makes me think our fold equity might be higher than we think. He'll fold MPs, most likely, and if we don't give him the right odds to draw to his flush, he should fold that as well.

If not, well, we've got our GS and 6 more outs to hitting a pair.

Open limping this hand is just poor playing. I dont know what else to say. It basically says "hey, i look pretty and want to see a flop". It has no purpose/objective and thus cannot have any edge assoc. with it. Now if you want to object to that, then think of it this way. If Sally or Susie were sitting in your seat and saw your hand, would they play any other way than limp on in and join the fun? No difference, no reciprocity, no edge.

I agree...if there were two limpers in front of me and I'm in LP, I might limp...but if it's folded to me and I want to play, I'm raising.