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Raise flop? As played how to size river? Raise flop? As played how to size river?

06-29-2017 , 10:43 PM
1/2 live new table. Hero is effective stack at 200. Villain is later 20's male.

Random guy makes it 5. Call. Villain calls from HJ. I call from CO with QJss. Button Calls.

Pot:25.

Flop: Kh Ts 3s.

Check check, villain bets 12. Hero??? While thinking two of the four villains fold out of turn. Hero calls. The rest fold.

Pot:45.

Turn 9d. Villain bets 15. Hero raises to 50. Villain asks how much I bet then calls fairly quickly.

Pot: 145.
River: offsuit 5.

Villain insta checks before the dealers hand if even off the card. Hero has about 135 left.

How do we range villain here? Can he have strong hands like KT or K9 where we can go for fat value? Would he have raised those on the turn? All he would have to be worried about is if for some reason I slowplayed a set of 3's on a wet board.

I feel like unless villain missed villain's most likely holding is some kind of weaker king like KJ or a pair plus spade draw type hand. This would make me want to bet like 50 and hope for a call from a one pair hand or in a dream scenario induce a raise from two pair or a missed draw that senses weakness.
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06-29-2017 , 10:55 PM
All in
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06-29-2017 , 11:01 PM
Raise flop. As played, stuff it in.
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06-29-2017 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
Raise flop. As played, stuff it in.
+1

EZ game
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06-30-2017 , 01:10 AM
People who are saying jam how are you ranging villain and do you expect a one pair hand to call this kind of bet?
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06-30-2017 , 04:50 AM
It doesn't matter dude. Villain has an inelastic calling range. Either he bricked his flush and is folding to anything or he thinks you are bluffing and will make the call. There is virtually no hand he calls a half PSB but folds to a river jam.
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06-30-2017 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
It doesn't matter dude. Villain has an inelastic calling range. Either he bricked his flush and is folding to anything or he thinks you are bluffing and will make the call. There is virtually no hand he calls a half PSB but folds to a river jam.
This sums it up nicely. Even if his range was somewhat elastic, the value you get from the times he will call a shove outweighs the additional range that will call less.
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06-30-2017 , 06:09 AM
Raise flop

Size turn a bit bigger

Jam
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06-30-2017 , 06:21 AM
i'd bet 100 here, in the hopes of getting a call, maybe even 90
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06-30-2017 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ihadtrips
This would make me want to bet like 50 and hope for a call from a one pair hand or in a dream scenario induce a raise from two pair or a missed draw that senses weakness.
The only folds that generates are hands that would be folding to any size. After villain called the turn raise I'd imagine there's at least a decent chance he's got something he's willing to call a river shove with.
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06-30-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
It doesn't matter dude. Villain has an inelastic calling range. Either he bricked his flush and is folding to anything or he thinks you are bluffing and will make the call. There is virtually no hand he calls a half PSB but folds to a river jam.
You don't think KJ K3 K9 and 9T are price sensitive here? You might be right but I would feel a lot differently with K3s vs a small bet and vs a shove. K9, K3, and 9T can beat value bets on the river vs a small sizing.
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07-01-2017 , 03:44 AM
Result hero bet like 55 or so and got snap called by worse so a larger sizing was probably much bertwr.
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07-01-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ihadtrips
Result hero bet like 55 or so and got snap called by worse so a larger sizing was probably much bertwr.
That's not a terrible result. If $55 gets called 95% of the time he has a made hand and $135 gets called $65% of the time he has a made hand, you make $35.50 more with the all in. Its not a massive amount, but remember that your play on the river is what separates the men from the boys.

He could be scared money and never call $135 on the river for all we know so again your bet isn't terrible. Just something for you to work on. Trying to squeeze out the max value possible.
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