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06-14-2020 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
@67o, almost all of what you're asking can be answered by taking a course. That is your best course or action.

As for interview competency, having an understanding of SQL is different than knowing how to use a given DB tool. Being able to write an SQL query is what matters, knowing how to use a query tool like Datagrip/RazorSQL or a CLI tool like psql isn't that important.
Thank you. Is a YouTube series enough or do I have to pay and take a full blown course? I'm hesitant for the latter because I don't wanna drop all this money and never get hired in data analytics.

At least if I never hired in data analytics doing the former I only wasted my time and energy.
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06-14-2020 , 10:15 PM
It’s genuine advice- that’s how most playas in Texas play.

You can’t win if you don’t bluff amirite

Spoiler:
obv kidding if not obv
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06-14-2020 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Yes, this is exactly why you should play at least half the deck on the BTN and in the BB vs a min bet (2x?). Offsuit combos are 3x suited combos which is why the range above is tight.

If you’re a losing player being a whale would exacerbate losses quite a bit but it’s hard to center advice around those circumstances.

It’s foundational, since you should absolutely not do this 9 handed from EP. you have way more people to get through.

hope the range above helps. Edited poast just now.

Also, it’s important the rake is largely reduced if not timed. Very important. Otherwise, disregard everything above and don’t play in the game.
This is awesome. Truly, thank you. Yeah, it was mask-required, socially distanced, max 3-hand games. It was my first time not playing online in 2020 (covid), and just had a s*****y adjusting night. Played with some really cool people though and genuinely had a fun time, just oof.. That $....
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06-14-2020 , 10:21 PM
No problem man. Good luck out there!

I’d set a 3 buyin stop loss btw assuming you’re playing recreationally while still in the live, mask infested, short handed adjustment period.

I.e. only bring $600 in cash to deh casino. This is because people play better when winning and worse when losing. The qualms of a Hero B-C game vs Villain A game dynamic, even if you have a distinct skill edge are further exacerbated in short handed play.

Also, a losing image isn’t conducive to attacking capped ranges profitably— since you’ll get called down by a pear more often.
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06-14-2020 , 10:27 PM
Did I mention it was my birthday though!? ��

Had some late failed all-in ventures on opponents who gave that "it's late and I'm trying to leave" vibe, but whom unfortunately had exceedingly strong hands lol
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06-14-2020 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Sure you can get AN answer, but it will always be a trivial answer that's rarely actionable, because every once in a while you need to actually compare or run a test on or segment your data. That's kinda idiotic to do just in sql.

Now go back to your corner code monkey.

Tldr most questions worth answering require more than just sql.

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Lol...can you even see your goal post anymore?

And no problem, I've carved out a pretty fine corner if I do say so myself.
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06-14-2020 , 11:12 PM
turtle gets along with everyone..... except Zoltan?

GO bacK to YOUr Corn3R CoDE MOnkey

Spoiler:
luv ya Zoltan
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06-14-2020 , 11:43 PM
My friend with a CS degree explained to me what a command line interface, and graphical user interface are are.

I'm honestly really excited to learn SQL, Python, and V... Do you think I can learn all of these if I do 15 hours a week for the next 10 weeks?


Also, should I learn Java, HTML, C, and C++?
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06-14-2020 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
My friend with a CS degree explained to me what a command line interface, and graphical user interface are are.

I'm honestly really excited to learn SQL, Python, and V... Do you think I can learn all of these if I do 15 hours a week for the next 10 weeks?


Also, should I learn Java, HTML, C, and C++?
Sounds like a good idea. The more the better. 10wks should be plenty of time to learn everything especially since you've learned what a command line interface and graphical user interface are.
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06-15-2020 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
My friend with a CS degree explained to me what a command line interface, and graphical user interface are are.

I'm honestly really excited to learn SQL, Python, and V... Do you think I can learn all of these if I do 15 hours a week for the next 10 weeks?


Also, should I learn Java, HTML, C, and C++?
150hrs being enough is a function of what you want to do. Build a tic-tac-toe program? Sure. Get a job as a software engineer? Probably not.

As for the other languages, if you dont know why you may or may not need to learn them then the answer is probably no.
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06-15-2020 , 03:32 AM
You definitely need to learn Argus.
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06-15-2020 , 07:07 AM
Speaking of careers we’re not qualified for, why not just go be mike ross:













The nostalgia is real. DC/Spyu like deh sarcastic genius Harvey. Squid/Garick/Feelie, esp Zoltan like grumpy Louis . 67o like pot head Trevor. DMW, Turtle like deh calm and savvy Robert. And yours truly like deh fraud douchenozzle OP.
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06-15-2020 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
turtle gets along with everyone..... except Zoltan?

GO bacK to YOUr Corn3R CoDE MOnkey

Spoiler:
luv ya Zoltan

It's how we hide the sexual tension.
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06-15-2020 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nickbmd
This is awesome. Truly, thank you. Yeah, it was mask-required, socially distanced, max 3-hand games. It was my first time not playing online in 2020 (covid), and just had a s*****y adjusting night. Played with some really cool people though and genuinely had a fun time, just oof.. That $....
If you're new to poker, live shorthanded sounds like the hardest way to learn.
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06-15-2020 , 07:48 AM
rtp, i am genuinely perplexed by your gif/video game, those aren't exactly the high brow bluff hoity toity fancy lads like to watch
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06-15-2020 , 08:00 AM
Nick,

I guess you can see why discussing strat in this thread can be difficult, with various discussions going on at once and a lot of sarcasm.

Generally speaking, you need to play short-handed poker more aggressively and with wider ranges than full-ring. Also, generally it will be a much swingier game, and experienced regs will have a bigger advantage over recreational players than usual. Check out the adjusting to 6-max thread, but even more so by a ton when you are talking 3 or 4 max. Optimal strategy is, as RtP said, closer to HU.
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06-15-2020 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
How would you define that?


Marginally useless
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06-15-2020 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Lol...can you even see your goal post anymore?

And no problem, I've carved out a pretty fine corner if I do say so myself.


**** that guy Donnie
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06-15-2020 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
rtp, i am genuinely perplexed by your gif/video game, those aren't exactly the high brow bluff hoity toity fancy lads like to watch

You actually watched them?
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06-15-2020 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Marginally useless

lol

I guess where I was going. To me (and this is highly subjective) a 4 does things like: vlookup, hlookup, sumif, averageif, etc

Those are skills that cover most of what you need if you are doing basic accounting or entry level finance work.

If you’re building models, you need to be a step higher: index/match, etc
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06-15-2020 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Wow a real life Don Draper.
Lol'ed.

Gonlyweekendpostworthquoting,imoG
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06-15-2020 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
You actually watched them?
Give me a little credit

You don't need an ad man mind to know the content based on the thumbnail
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06-15-2020 , 02:31 PM
So an old friend who I definitely consider to be a friend is talking about being a reg in this home game that I'm gonna start regging in, instead of playing on pokerbros.

He was the one that got me in to hold em. He used to host 20NL home games after we graduated from high so a few days a week.

We kinda drifted apart but still talk every 1-2 months.

Anyways, he fell way behind me because he doesn't understand bankroll management, always thinks he plays hands correctly, refuses to join this forum/training sites, etc

I used to try to help him out, but it'd regularly turn into him saying my advice was wrong and there was no way what he did was wrong. I just stopped talking to him about poker entirely.

We played in a friendly 1/2 home game a few weeks back, which he's still just as bad as he was four years ago. He asked me some things after and I answered his questions, and he seemed to have more of an open mind and was less defensive.

Anyways with him allegedly becoming a reg in this new 1/2/5 game, I don't wanna answer his questions or help him out at all because it seems super counterproductive...Why would I make 12.5% of the table harder to play against, especially when this will make up half or more of my income indefinitely? Do you think it would be rude to just straight up tell him next time he asks if it was correct to call a 7x raise from SB with 97o because he has the right odds going 5 ways to a flop, that I can't be helping out and giving information to a regular opponent like that? I do think it'd be a lot different if he were at least a small winner, but the lineup looks to be 8 spots and me. I think it'd be tragic to over time change the makeup to 7 spots, 1 break even, and me.

Any advice for communicating this to him politely?
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06-15-2020 , 02:45 PM
just give him bad/ambiguous advice
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06-15-2020 , 02:47 PM
Do not lie to him about strat, but it's fine to say "Hey, man. Since we're playing together for real money, I don't feel right about giving you that much insight into how I play. I recommend you check out (a book or training site you think is about his level) or ask that on 2+2."

Then when he doesn't, it's on him, not you.
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