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04-28-2020 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
no, spyu's just been respectful to be in general. don't even remember seeing that post lol.

maybe, but isn't that exactly what some of you do with me.? Regardless of the specific content of my post.. I'm sure some of you are like "not this *** again".

i'm trying to say i'm trying my best but you are not co-operating. that is totally cool. but i don't think it's unfair to say that you don't have to react a specific way (negative and snarky).

You act as if that is the only way to react to my posts
Start a PGC man...this **** is tiring
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04-28-2020 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
there is a difference between pointing out the flaws in my logic and telling me dreaming big is dumb, which is how I'm seeing it coming from you.

I already factored in the virus. You assumed I didn't, and I can't understand why.
preconceived notion, for the win!
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04-28-2020 , 10:28 AM
slim, you don't get tired of the same people/perspectives? I'm trying my best, just asking to stop being hated on so hard every four posts while I do so.
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04-28-2020 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
? I'm trying to say people are way meaner to me than they are to other people.
preconceived notion, for the win!

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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I get that it's obviously because of me. I'm saying that doesn't mean people have to react that way. They are choosing to. In other words this = their fault. What is so hard to understand about that? Yes, in some ways I'm not willing to change to please others, and in others I'm actively trying. (want examples?)

why should you get special treatment?
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04-28-2020 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
you don't get it. I do not think everything is going to be "hunky-dory" . I never downplayed the worldwide cluster**** we're in. This has nothing to do with capability.

*IMO* there will be at least one person who will make $150k-$250k in their first year playing poker professionally in 2021. Why not me? Maybe in 2010 that number would have been $500k. Yeah, I'm pulling that out of my ass. The point is whether or not you agree with me or think I'm delusional is irrelevant. As I was saying, I'll be the first to admit if it doesn't work out. Why do you need always going out of your way to mock me and then tell me it's my fault when I fire back?
rtp, do you mind telling us what your br is right now and what stakes you plan to start at, i've seen 5/10 a lot so assuming you have a chess tutoring money saved up?
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04-28-2020 , 10:32 AM
I was actually asking for the opposite of special treatment?

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to be treated normally, regardless of my style? I'm not going out of my way to offend anyone
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04-28-2020 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
rtp, do you mind telling us what your br is right now and what stakes you plan to start at, i've seen 5/10 a lot so assuming you have a chess tutoring money saved up?
poker and life roll are both five figures if separated.
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04-28-2020 , 10:37 AM
jots, i'm sure i baffle you. but i'm also equally confused as to how you don't see that you're way more sarcastic/belittling/etc. etc. when talking to me? Even when my post has absolutely nothing to do with you?
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04-28-2020 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I was actually asking for the opposite of special treatment?

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to be treated normally, regardless of my style? I'm not going out of my way to offend anyone
you still don't get it.

you are being treated normally.

you have crazy high expectations. people, who actually have years and years of knowledge about this stuff, tell you they are extremely pie in the sky. your response is effectively 'you don't know me, i'm better than everyone else, i'm never going to fail because [insert reasons that have nothing to do with poker].'

what type of reaction do you expect everyone to have?

i'd say the responses have been spot on. but i don't expect you to understand this because you refuse to understand anyone who has a view different than your own.
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04-28-2020 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
jots, i'm sure i baffle you. but i'm also equally confused as to how you don't see that you're way more sarcastic/belittling/etc. etc. when talking to me? Even when my post has absolutely nothing to do with you?
you don't baffle me at all. i know exactly who you are (obv not from a personal standpoint, but from a mindset standpoint)

i'm not more sarcastic with you than i am with others. you just think i am.
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04-28-2020 , 10:44 AM
dude you still don't get it either lmao. You think that because that's how you view it. What you don't realize is I'm not asking for your feedback/opinion in every post. Yes, I don't mind it but my view is that you can just ignore it. if/when you do respond mocking me, how do you expect me to react? Especially when yore assumptions are misguided half the time.
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04-28-2020 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
poker and life roll are both five figures if separated.
not bad, just be sure to keep em separate, once you start transferring and juggling it's only separate in theory

gl and seriously, start a pg&c, there's tons of pathetic losers who have them with major fanboys following them so it'd be nice for someone who isn't broke playing on a $500 roll in nl25 and has real aspirations

just to be clear, i'm not calling you a pathetic loser, i think pretty highly of you, you're just young and don't understand, would love to have a beer with you in 5 years
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04-28-2020 , 10:47 AM
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I get that it's obviously because of me. I'm saying that doesn't mean people have to react that way. They are choosing to. In other words this = their fault.
You are choosing to respond = your fault.

You can't have it both ways, either what they are doing is fine since you do it, or you are just as bad as they are and are thus being hypocritical.

K, I give up. If this doesn't get through, meh.
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04-28-2020 , 10:49 AM
For all the negativity and uncalled for sarcasm (in an attempt to fit in with everyone else I assume?) I've learned a lot. And I'm thankful for that. So it makes it worth it for me.

Not everyone is looking for flaws in every post I make like you and some realize that I am getting better (you don't imo- based on some of your assumptions)
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04-28-2020 , 10:51 AM
Garick, it's not any more my fault than anyone else's. And nothing you've said shows that it is.

You just don't like my style. I'm sorry.
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04-28-2020 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fold4once
Holy **** I forgot about grilled beer. Thanks for the mammories Garlick.
Oh haaaiiiiii foldy? Waddup my dude?
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04-28-2020 , 10:54 AM
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it's not any more my fault than anyone else's
So are you a hypocrite for doing the same wrong thing that others are, or a whiner for complaining about things that aren't really wrong?

Those are basically the only choices here.

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You just don't like society's style. It's sorry.
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04-28-2020 , 10:54 AM
Mah gawd...we get a treat like foldy showing up in the middle of a pandemic and we're just gonna keep arguing with RTP? Priorities people
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04-28-2020 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
you don't baffle me at all. i know exactly who you are (obv not from a personal standpoint, but from a mindset standpoint)

i'm not more sarcastic with you than i am with others. you just think i am.
Bolded is true.

JOTS is good people. While people don't always have to agree, it is often better than not to be curious where someone is coming from.
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04-28-2020 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
not bad, just be sure to keep em separate, once you start transferring and juggling it's only separate in theory

gl and seriously, start a pg&c, there's tons of pathetic losers who have them with major fanboys following them so it'd be nice for someone who isn't broke playing on a $500 roll in nl25 and has real aspirations

just to be clear, i'm not calling you a pathetic loser, i think pretty highly of you, you're just young and don't understand, would love to have a beer with you in 5 years
ty. I know this thread is big on false humility and humble brags but I'm quite proud of myself for that. Lots of work.

re pg&c: I just don't know if I can take this on a daily basis. (getting **** on by people). I just don't see the value in adjusting my posting style to please other people and don't see why people can't be respectful despite disagreeing with some of my views and how I articulate things.

the grumpy old chat regs itt ruin it for everyone imo. I'm *not* looking for attention and couldn't care less if people who couldn't stand me ignored every one of my posts.

Yet, they respond sarcastically and then blame it on my posting style like there's nothing they could do differently.

Last edited by RoadtoPro; 04-28-2020 at 11:06 AM. Reason: amloltired
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04-28-2020 , 11:02 AM
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04-28-2020 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Hard to say.

Here in rightside up world student loans are backed by the gubmint. Thats one of the reasons why tuition has skyrocketed in the last few decades. Anyone can get a loan unless you got pinched slangin' drugs. Infact, with all the hoopla around the pandemic the gubmint has mandated that all interest rates on all loans be reduced to 0%. My guess is that a 0% interest rate loan (tho temporary) will be very attractive to people.
I've been off-line, grunch.

Freshman looking to go away to school whether in-state or out-of-state, are looking to fo just that - go away.

They ste not looking to take out loans and stay home and study online.

They would rather defer or take intro classes on line from local community schools at much lower cost, and transfer later.

I know several in this boat. School is a financial hardship. Its not just the education, but the experience. Without the experience many will avoid the expense.

Juniors / seniors more indebted already and further into their major, may not have same option, especially if they stand to lose scholarships if they take time off.
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04-28-2020 , 11:04 AM
Oh I wanna destroy that @sshole so long as the face looks as good as the back
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04-28-2020 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Garick
So are you a hypocrite for doing the same wrong thing that others are, or a whiner for complaining about things that aren't really wrong?

Those are basically the only choices here.

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You just don't like society's style. It's sorry.
haha alright man, if you say so.

You don't see the problem with being so close-minded?
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04-28-2020 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Oh I wanna destroy that @sshole so long as the face looks as good as the back
Bromethius - honestly, would it matter if it wasnt?
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