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05-13-2024 , 12:14 AM
a. EP - UTG through UTG+2 - 22+, AK, KQ (9.5%) of hands
b. MP - UTG+3-HJ - 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo (18%)
c. Late position - 55+,33-22,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o +,T9o (33%) of hands

which of these hands are we 3 betting from MP and LP?

I read that can 3 bet all these by the coursse but it just seems spewy at 1-2/1-3 no?
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05-13-2024 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
a. EP - UTG through UTG+2 - 22+, AK, KQ (9.5%) of hands
b. MP - UTG+3-HJ - 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo (18%)
c. Late position - 55+,33-22,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o +,T9o (33%) of hands

which of these hands are we 3 betting from MP and LP?

I read that can 3 bet all these by the coursse but it just seems spewy at 1-2/1-3 no?

Wrong thread bud
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05-13-2024 , 11:01 AM
Skied Copper yesterday as my last day of the season. #89.
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05-13-2024 , 12:49 PM
6 down, 14 to go to giving GG a new avatar. Had to fade a 15 outer to do it (middle set vs top two and nut flush draw), but a win is a win.

Haven’t lost a session since my friend (CotB from my trip reports) passed away in early February. He may just will me to 20 in a row even if it takes another 6 months.

He would have turned 49 on Wednesday.
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05-13-2024 , 02:05 PM
Speaking of streaks (can't remember if I've mentioned it--if so, sorry), AA has held 16 straight times for me. I think it was around a year ago I noticed the streak at 4 or 5, and have been tracking.

I don't think I'm overbetting or anything--getting action, they're just avoiding the sets and other unpleasant runouts.
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05-13-2024 , 02:55 PM
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Speaking of streaks (can't remember if I've mentioned it--if so, sorry), AA has held 16 straight times for me. I think it was around a year ago I noticed the streak at 4 or 5, and have been tracking.

I don't think I'm overbetting or anything--getting action, they're just avoiding the sets and other unpleasant runouts.
sounds like the next 5 times are going to go horribly
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05-13-2024 , 05:29 PM
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Speaking of streaks (can't remember if I've mentioned it--if so, sorry), AA has held 16 straight times for me. I think it was around a year ago I noticed the streak at 4 or 5, and have been tracking.

I don't think I'm overbetting or anything--getting action, they're just avoiding the sets and other unpleasant runouts.
Found my mirror image twin. Well, to be fair, I try not to track it ... but it's been hard not to notice they never win.
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05-13-2024 , 05:53 PM
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Speaking of streaks (can't remember if I've mentioned it--if so, sorry), AA has held 16 straight times for me. I think it was around a year ago I noticed the streak at 4 or 5, and have been tracking.

I don't think I'm overbetting or anything--getting action, they're just avoiding the sets and other unpleasant runouts.
I want you to know that I am holding some negative feelings for you now.
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05-13-2024 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
sounds like the next 5 times are going to go horribly
Oh no, the rest of the hands have been evening things out. QQ < 77 AIPF ("because sevens are hot tonight") when the board four-flush a wrong way for me. For example. (Some of this due to my bad play, to be fair).

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Found my mirror image twin. Well, to be fair, I try not to track it ... but it's been hard not to notice they never win.
I'll take the no on "never"

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I want you to know that I am holding some negative feelings for you now.
I'm ok with that. Let it out, you'll feel better. I can take it.

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05-13-2024 , 07:00 PM
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I'm ok with that. Let it out, you'll feel better. I can take it.
Last week I did the following calculation. I have played 2000 hours since the start of 2019. That's around 60,000 hands.

Since you get aces 0.45% of the time, I should have gotten them 270 times during that time span. I checked my online database and I discovered that I get it in all in either 5-10% of the time. I think 5%.

Mind you, live is less aggro than online, so you probably get it it less live than online.

So over the past 5 years, I ought to have gotten all in with AA at most 13-14 times.

And yet when I try to remember the times I gotten it in, I can remember something like 7 times. 6 times I lost, 1 time I won.

I try to be modest here because there might be some selection bias going on, i.e. i remember the bad beats more than the times I won. But even so, best case scenario, I am winning 60% of the time I get it in.

And of course there's this gem of a hand I posted about back then:
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Hero is UTG+1 8 handed I think, raises 25.

CO calls, Villain 3bets to 150 from the B.

Hero tanks for a bit, maybe less than I thought, because I didn't have to think much, 4bets to 425, CO folds.

Villain takes somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds to ship it.

Hero snap calls obviously thinking that with Villain snap shoving he probably has the other AA and this is a big waste of time.

Flop comes KJx. Doesn't look good. Sure enough Villain turns KK.

As Villain tables hand he opens his hands and reveals a humongous stack.
Count reveals Villain's stack to be $2190.

Hero is left with $5 as a parting gift from the Gods of Trolling and Schadenfreude.

Then hero has to listen to chipper villain explain to the guy next to him that "maybe he had QQ or JJ or AK. I know how he plays, so".

Pretty proud that I took it as a champ barely showing any emotion other than whining here obv.

Villain is different from player pool; relatively tight, but overrates big pairs and top pairs. I have relatively aggro image, so he can be forgiven for thinking I have a wider range than i actually have in this spot.
All in all, I can say that I am very bitter, because I am running like dogshit and it's just not the Aces.
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05-13-2024 , 07:10 PM
If I were you I would simply run better.
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05-13-2024 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OvertlySexual
Last week I did the following calculation. I have played 2000 hours since the start of 2019. That's around 60,000 hands.

Since you get aces 0.45% of the time, I should have gotten them 270 times during that time span. I checked my online database and I discovered that I get it in all in either 5-10% of the time. I think 5%.

Mind you, live is less aggro than online, so you probably get it it less live than online.

So over the past 5 years, I ought to have gotten all in with AA at most 13-14 times.

And yet when I try to remember the times I gotten it in, I can remember something like 7 times. 6 times I lost, 1 time I won.

I try to be modest here because there might be some selection bias going on, i.e. i remember the bad beats more than the times I won. But even so, best case scenario, I am winning 60% of the time I get it in.

And of course there's this gem of a hand I posted about back then:
All in all, I can say that I am very bitter, because I am running like dogshit and it's just not the Aces.
My worst run with Aces lifetime happened about a month ago. And no selection bias because I have the database to look at.

I lost AA vs QQ aipf 4/4. Then lost AA vs AK aipf 4/4.

All within the span of about two days.
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05-14-2024 , 12:07 AM
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Wrong thread bud
where would be the right thread then?
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05-14-2024 , 12:13 AM
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where would be the right thread then?

One of the many poker strategy threads…or even creating your own one
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05-14-2024 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
a. EP - UTG through UTG+2 - 22+, AK, KQ (9.5%) of hands
b. MP - UTG+3-HJ - 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo (18%)
c. Late position - 55+,33-22,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o +,T9o (33%) of hands

which of these hands are we 3 betting from MP and LP?

I read that can 3 bet all these by the coursse but it just seems spewy at 1-2/1-3 no?
all pairs from EP at 10 handed? I never saw a chart that ambitious.
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05-14-2024 , 10:59 AM
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where would be the right thread then?
Check out the "I hate 44 in LP" thread, ldo.

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05-14-2024 , 11:38 AM
I hate 44 too, fake AA lookin ass bitch
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05-14-2024 , 11:43 AM
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I hate 44 too, fake AA lookin ass bitch
The key is to play 44 exactly how you would play AA.

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05-14-2024 , 12:07 PM
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I hate 44 too, fake AA lookin ass bitch
A4 is a worse fake out, imo
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05-14-2024 , 12:08 PM
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The key is to play 44 exactly how you would play AA.



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So, poorly?
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05-14-2024 , 12:22 PM
Limp UTG, check/fold
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05-14-2024 , 01:41 PM
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Skied Copper yesterday as my last day of the season. #89.
Only 89?

Summer time hobby can’t get here soon enough. I’ve been playing too much poker and it’s been bad. I need something else more joyful to do.
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05-14-2024 , 02:08 PM
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So, poorly?
That goes without saying. Key is to just do it slightly less poorly than my neighbour.

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05-14-2024 , 03:26 PM
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The key is to play 44 exactly how you would play AA.



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Limp and set-mine both, LDO.
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05-14-2024 , 04:12 PM
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Only 89?

Summer time hobby can’t get here soon enough. I’ve been playing too much poker and it’s been bad. I need something else more joyful to do.
Yeah, really slacked off in May...... but skiing on my BDay (Sun) was kinda a goal.

Summertime.... you and Jr wanna flyfish?
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