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Quick Preflop Question -- AT at 2/3 Quick Preflop Question -- AT at 2/3

08-05-2015 , 12:23 AM
V1, MAWG, bald, glasses, checkered shirt. He's too loose preflop, probably an equal mix of raises and calls, but plays somewhere around 40% of his hands.

V2, Indian guy in his early 30s, way way too loose preflop, weirdly aggressive postflop. He's the main reason I haven't stuck myself on the table change list.

V1 has $160, V2 has $400, I cover.

Two folds, V1 makes it 13, V2 calls, 1 fold, Hero in CO with AT?

If it makes a difference to anyone, I'm pretty sure (>90%) the button and small blind are folding.
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08-05-2015 , 12:25 AM
They're loose openers, but how often do they call 3 bets out of position and how do they play post flop?

Ie how sticky are they?
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08-05-2015 , 12:41 AM
Don't know re: 3-bets, there really have been very few 3-bets during the two hours I've been sitting there.

V1 has only been there about 45 minutes, and I'd expect him to c-bet a lot even 3 or 4 ways. I wouldn't hate playing for his stack if I flop top pair with a T, and tbh I don't think I'd even mind calling off his stack over 2-3 streets if I flop an A.

V2 is a bit stabby in pots that don't seem to belong to anyone, but it's kinda transparent -- his smallish bet sizes tend to be stabs, his big c/rs tend to be big hands. He's a bit sticky, although I fired two barrels and got a fold against him at one point (he limps, I 15, folds out except him, flop Q97 two hearts, he c/c 20, turn off-suit J, he c/f to 50).
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08-05-2015 , 01:40 AM
I dont hate a call or a fold.

Fold is OK bc even if he's loose he's selective about his raises and can easily have hands that dominate us. AT its not dramatically ahead of his raising range therefore not a must play here.

Call is OK bc we'll have position post lots of times and will therefore have a good idea facing most actions where we are with a hand that likely to only flop marginally well.

I don't like a raise here. I don't think bloating the pot accomplishes much, and I don't think we'll get a ton of folds. We will also be tempted to call his shoves w his stack size even though we are almost certainly behind w most decent 3 bet sizes.
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08-05-2015 , 03:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
V1, MAWG, bald, glasses, checkered shirt. He's too loose preflop, probably an equal mix of raises and calls, but plays somewhere around 40% of his hands.

V2, Indian guy in his early 30s, way way too loose preflop, weirdly aggressive postflop. He's the main reason I haven't stuck myself on the table change list.

V1 has $160, V2 has $400, I cover.

Two folds, V1 makes it 13, V2 calls, 1 fold, Hero in CO with AT?

If it makes a difference to anyone, I'm pretty sure (>90%) the button and small blind are folding.
I like to 3bet to 50-60. If V1 shoves and V2 folds, call. If V1 shoves, V2 calls, fold.

Flat is OK. Fold to bet from Vs if you hit nothing otf.
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08-05-2015 , 03:10 AM
Not a big fan of ATo in general but in this spot I like a 3bet for value. We are ahead of their ranges right now and I think both players are likely to call our raise with a rather wide range.

I'd size the 3bet fairly small and would fold to a 4bet from either player. (barring reads)
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08-05-2015 , 11:35 AM
My snap default on AJo- is to fold to preflop raises, especially to an EP raise, especially with only 50bb stacks versus raiser, especially by MAWG / bald / glasses / checkered shirt. I would need pretty good reasons to do otherwise.

GimoG
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08-05-2015 , 11:53 AM
We MAWGs usually hold better than AT when we raise.

We don't raise A9-.

Even when we are steaming.
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08-05-2015 , 12:30 PM
We are flipping vs v1s range (assuming it's 20%ish - "40% mix of raise and calls".

I'm cool with 3! Or fold here with ATo.
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08-05-2015 , 12:46 PM
3bet or fold.

calling is pointless. our most commonly flopped value hands are TPMK or TPTK, both of which are very susceptible to a wide range of Turn and River cards.
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08-06-2015 , 10:46 AM
V1 is pretty short so a fold is fine here
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