1/3 NLHE, 6 handed (for this hand).

V - Have never seen him before in the room, have 1 hour playing with him and he seems somewhat competent and loose aggressive. He's been opening a bit much I'd say (~30%) and raising and doing some 3-betting. Haven't seen him showdown. He's straddling a lot and has x/raised a couple times. Seems capable. 400$. HJ.

H - Hasn't played many hands and hasn't had any hands. Should look tight to V. 450$. BTN.

HH - V opens LJ to 10, couple calls in late position, straightforward beginner 3-bets to 20 from SB off 300$ stack (guy had been seen limp calling pre with JJ), BB folds, V 4-bets to 50, late positioners fold, SB beginner calls. HU. Flop 130ish - A-K-4r, SB beginner checks, V bets 40, SB beginner folds TT face up, V shows 75s no BDFD.

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Folds to V who opens to 10, CO folds, Hero raises Q J to 35, only V calls. HU IP.

Flop 70 - T 6 4

V checks, Hero checks (?)

Turn 70 - J

V bets 105, Hero?

I fold easily, but I would be betting that flop if I'm gonna 3bet pre.

Call. Aggressive opponent who likely has tons of bluffs here and QJs is going to be really high in your range after checking back flop (which you are very unlikely to do with overpairs).

I think folding here would be way too weak and jamming just lets Villain play perfectly. Your hand will look like AK to Villain and he will bluff with all of his garbage on the river.

Edit: I read the HH, it's just a question of how much you wanna gamble. It's not a slam dunk call though since we're expecting him to jam the river with his whole range pretty much (hero checked the flop so he's probably ranging him on AK and will probably jam unless those cards came out otr). If hero thinks he'll slow down then it's an easier call.

V's history suggests some ego in play. If I had to guess he 4bet that hand because he didnt like the 3bet minraise he faced. Typically when fish minraise in any capacity preflop it's a silly hand. I suppose they think the raise looks threatening when what they're really after is trying to 'sweeten the pot' i.e. just gamble with a hand preflop in the hopes that it smashes the board postflop. Personally I think V should have taken the odds given and just called but I guess I can get on board with a 4bet given the sizing option due to fish's puny 3bet.

OTTH

I dont know if this is supposed to be some sort of solver approved overbet, especially because he bet 1/3 earlier so he's clearly being selective about his sizing, but in general when facing overbets we should only be calling with good bluffcatchers, never raising. I think TPGK qualifies on a board like this where V can once again have something like 75hh or AThh. I definitely dont thing he goes for a x/r with a set on a flop like this.

QcJc is not one of the hands I would check the flop with. It's probably top on the list of all the bluffing hands I would select.

Call the turn.

Pus all in, stack is small relative to pot if you just call.

pot will be $280 with $260 behind if hero calls. might as well let V keep bluffing.

there's an argument for shoving if you think villain will call with a flush draw or Tx but there's not enough in OP to indicate that.

I agree you can cbet with all those juicy backdoors although I don't think a flop check is awful.

Turn is a standard call. Absolutely not folding whilst raising achieves nothing. Might fold to a big bet if the river is a heart

Can you elaborate on why you would bet this flop? I feel like I don't really understand what flops I'm supposed to be betting and not. This one seems bad to me. He has a lot more TX than I do no?

Can you explain why? I don't understand the logic apparently in 3-bet pots. My logic is: I don't have a nut advantage, at best I have an overpair that could get check-raised and forced to fold, and I have a BDSD plus two overs that can improve by seeing a free card = check.

Continuation of OP:

Hero calls the 105.

River 280 (~300 back) - T 6 4 J A

V checks, Hero?

Seems like an easy check back. Betting seems pretty thin here.

A lot of reasons to bet. I mean this spot is pretty much just a range bet imo.

But some other things I can think of:

You block a lot of the backdoor continues and top pairs like QT/JT so your folds go up which is good when bluffing.

Having 3 to a royal is never bad as you have decent equity here w/ the bdfd and sd and two overs.

Betting keeps your range uncapped for later streets to pressure more of his lower PP and Ace high region on a lot of turns.

QJ really benefits in clearing out all of his Ax and Kx auto folds of which I would think this guy has a lot. Getting those to fold and win the pot on the flop I think in itself probably is huge vs the alternative of checking back.

He's going to sometimes fold AJ/AQ/KJ/KQ so the times he calls and you turn a Q or a J you increase the times where your hand is not dominated as opposed to when you just check back and a Q or J turns.

Yeah you don't have the nut advantage, but you have overwhelmingly the Strong hands advantage imo. So nut advantage alone is not what dictates betting frequency. It is more weighted to determining bet sizing.

And on this board it's not as relevant imo as would be on something like 567 or something like that.

why would you fold an overpair to a checkraise? at this spr on this type of raggedy board, your overpairs are your nut advantage

Ok well..regardless. Even if you don't fold an overpair to a check/raise. Why would you bet this flop with QJcc as per the original question.

spyu's post is very good.

basically u always have some fold equity in these spots and our hand plays way better as a bet as opposed to a check imo. you got a bunch of turns you can continue betting on if you want too

Interesting anecdote; fast playing the nuts on dry flops is +EV because people wont fold TP+ under the mistaken belief that their hand is better 'protected' due to lack of draws.

Well my solver agrees with the people saying cbet this flop IP. It leans closer to a check with AQo no no .. I guess because A-high has SDV while Q-high doesn't and K-high/A-high hands in V's range (unblocked) have to fold a lot here to a c-bet. My solver says using chunky 2/3rd-Pot sizing as well. I guess because V's range is a lot of A-high, K-high and 77-99 that hate life, even weaker TX isn't loving it. I just felt this guy was overly aggressive and had a wide x/r range that would blow me off my hand which has some good equity even if behind (which it likely is on this flop).

Result:

When I run this I get 40% pot as a sizing solution.

But I adjusted for what I think this guys range is and have included hands that a solver wouldn't have pf i.e. 75s, 64s, J9s, etc.

It depends on your overall strategy to exploit him. Are you looking to get into big pots? Take him that way or bleed hims slowly? I'd suggest you focus on how you plan to do this overall. That works better than reviewing things one hand at a time.

ok but pretend he had ace 5 of spades. he cant just checkraise you with 80% of his range or something, if you bet half pot he's going to fold like 30-50% of his range depending on how sticky he is pre and post with his range.

while you're looking at your solver look at how he responds to a bet (probably this guy almost certainly has too many AQo, AJo, all the pocket pairs and stuff given the 75ss hand earlier) and how you respond to a check raise (nvr fold overpair, call it off on non heart brick turn with them)

thanks sub.