Agree with this. Like if you see a post from me, definitely take it with a grain of salt as I'm a beginner. But posting helps develop my game away from the table, and I can see how "good" posters respond, or how the consensus develops, and determine whether my thought process was good or not.

This thread is thought provoking and will spark discussion, but pretty immature / trivial imo. It should be obvious to anyone who reads the forums regularly that there is plenty of bad / mediocre advice out there. Even in the sticky it says to either look for a consensus or look for posts from the players you grow to respect.

Also someone who is a regular at medium/high stakes or an online grinder has no place coming into this forum and unilaterally criticizing the advice for a vastly different game, imo.

Because everybody knows the more posts you have, the better you are at poker! And the bigger your dick is!

cmon op, i know your posts, i know this subforum and it´s quality, and although i´m pretty certain that i´m a superior poker player overall than most posters in here, esp theory wise, i wouldn´t dare to create such a thread since some of those guys are actually experts in their specific area, which is, in this case, low stakes no limit holdem live grind. couldn´t do it. some of those can and are successfully with it. show at least some respect it is not about Heads Up multitabling or PLO or mixed games, it just is, what it is

one thing to add, what do you expect from this thread? since i don´t think you are a troll i hope you don´t offend too many people by it which would lead to biased answers regarding your threads, but i can´t imagine you´re getting something positive out of it (although responses are way friendlier than i would have imagined...)

dont really know.

was pissed i wasnt alowed to write in the medium fullring forum, so i came here to rant.

my head is full of BS and white powder and im awake 48 hours infront of this goddam machine

You say you disagree with 80% of the advice, but I think you mean that 80% of the threads have some advice in them that is bad. This is true, but there are usually at least a couple voices of reason in each thread. Read selectively and help the newer folks learn.

Ok, don't come in whining about bad advice and proceed give total shat of your own. Maybe you should look at why your own thinking could be shat. Limping pocket pairs is weak-passive fish play. We play them to flop a set. Have fun getting your stack in without a monster over-bet, which could run off drawing hands or weak top-pair hands we want to get value from.

Just because someone gives (in your opinion) shat advice doesn't make it totally useless, by the way. By thinking through someone else's thoughts, you may find yourself agreeing with them and being swayed to their thinking, or find that your initial conclusions are correct and they were totally off.

So you're so addled from methamphetamine psychosis that nothing makes sense, and that's our fault?

Lock it up, Venice

ahhhhhhhhh

it depends.

but mostly not a good idea to raise small pockets into a bunch of people.

you might even be a moneydog:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

6,516,048 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
55	19.76%	1,283,490	16,767
JsTs	34.63%	2,252,565	16,767
Ah2h	22.77%	1,479,540	16,767
6d7d	22.83%	1,483,686	16,767

raising suited broadways and medium suited connectors or suited aces much more better than pockets lower than 66-77

it also can suck if you have TT in the BB and the whole table limped and is super unpredictable and you are deep with some of the most aggro morons.

even though you have the best hand here most of the time, the raise gets called by the entire table and the hand is super difficult to play postflop against multiple opponentns oop and there are no good flops beside a set or a flop like 222

Open limping, sure. Limping behind a bunch of limpers will most often be the most ev play though.

So this is something that would merit its own thread where I would probably contribute, but I strongly disagree with both the conclusion and the method of argument you're using.

It gets back to what others are telling you--if you don't like the quality of the forum, do what I do: ignore the stuff you're willing to ignore, or improve it yourself if you think you can.

Well that's just another way to think about it, isn't it? The way I look at it, I try to set up to build a pot when I hit. I know I'm check/folding most flops. But I digress. I'm tired of beating that dead horse. My point is, just because you disagree with somebody's advice, don't cry that the whole forum is shat. Jump in and add your voice, as someone else said. You're right, lots of posters here spew bad advice. But there's lots of good stuff too. It's up to you to sift through and find the gold nuggets amidst all the iron pyrite.

And ffs, put the straw down and take a nap. That ****'ll blow your heart up and rot out your teeth.

cant remember i stacked someone with a set the last time. has to be months ago.

last big hands where QQ>T9 on 77T4 and AA>XX on K229

most of the time stack someone if i hit some sort of draw and bet big turn and river

sample size. Just take your hand from post #15 and replace your KQ with AA or TT, which you would most likely play using the exact same line, and boom, now you've stacked someone with a set.

How much experience do you have playing in these live low limit games?

Do you have a significant sample size at 1-2 NL or 1-3 NL that shows you can beat these games?

IMO this forum is better than most of the posters ITT are saying. I wonder if people are trying too hard to appease the OP. I find the responses to be very helpful when I start a thread, and I agree with much of the advice here.

On the other hand, I do think some of the hands the beginners post are very easy, and that's one reason I agree with a lot of the responses. It's not that uncommon for me to read a thread started by someone who rarely posts here and immediately think that person should have folded PF. Then I'll read several responses that say "fold pf."

But to say that 80% of the responses are wrong seems ridiculous to me.

have played in a crazy home game years ago every week blinds were 50cents/1dollar but we all had 600BB at least and often more.

since a month or two im going into the casino again. so far not much action on my sets, most sets i flop were folded pre to a huge 3-bet infront of me.

same online. used to play on stars a lot. not anymore though since rakeincrease. i played 8-game alot, not much holdem in there, but didnt flop one set i got decent action on as far as i can remember. maybe wrong though.

biggest pots were PLO. did 3-table the 8-game 24/7 at least 2 monts.

do you realize in Live Poker, a sample size of "months" is like a grain of sand on the beach @ 40 hands per hour one tabling and to change the way you play pocket pairs because you "haven't stacked someone in months" is like really bad.

/ ibl

no dont wanna change that.

as far as my shorthanded experience gos at NL flopping a set was rarly crucial for a big win, since you so rarly get action.

maybe FR is another deal

Yeah this sample size in live is really LOL. Not saying strat is good as I previously conceeded but bring an on-line orientation to live poker strat is pointless at LLSNL

I read a couple of threads you complained about and I got the feeling that you don't realize how passive a lot of villains are in these games, which also led me to suspect that you don't have much experience in these games. It's not at all like a crazy home game. Sure you might run into some spewy aggressive types, but more commonly you will run into players that are too passive.

I think Ed Miller has it right when he says a lot of these villains have the same gameplan. They want to make big hands and stack people. If they're making big bets, it's often because they finally made that big hand they've been waiting for, and they are trying to stack people.

I honestly think this is a troll thread and nothing good will come of it...

Lock it up

Page 10 of Ed Miller's book Poker's 1%

This is how a lot of my opponents think. I think Ed Miller has it right when he says they play poker like it's a slot machine.

Also from reading this it's clear you don't have much experience in these games. Nothing wrong with that, but I think that explains why you're having trouble understanding what some of the people here are thinking.

dont think im that bad.

propably most people here play worse than me.

made 5k in the 8 game, 2 months not a big sample but still.

think that most regs are even bigger fish than me in plo and stud. holdem is my strongest game, i dont make many mistakes there.

Is 5k in 2 months impressive? Normally I don't hear anyone brag about making 5k unless they make it in a night. Even then, it's not that big of a deal. I know a relative "fish" that made $30k in one night playing 5/10 PLO a couple weeks ago. One week later he made $20k in a 5/10 NLHE session.