1/2 Maryland Live

Hero ($400): Playing TAG, relatively new to the table. Have shown down AA twice now after raising pre to $12-15.

V1 ($300): Also new to the table but have played once with him before. He's pretty solid 40ish white guy that plays TAG and a pretty tight range.

V2 ($500): 20s mexican kid who is ultra loose. Will chase down any draw no matter the price. Have seen him in this session alone go all-in way over-betting the pot on the flop or turn when he has caught the nuts (all 3 times being a straight which he hit).

Hand: V1 is UTG and opens for $15. This is the first time I've seen him raise. He's been in about 3 rotations so far. V2 calls in MP, and I am on BTN with QQ. Usually I 3bet here pretty automatically, but I was a little concerned about V1 given his image and his first open. If the board was rags to the river and he fired 3 barrels, my plan if we got heads up to the turn, was to call flop, call rag turns, and probably fold river because at that point I'd know for sure he's got KK+. Most of the table has been opening from $7-12 so $15 seemed like a lot for this table too. I just called. Both blinds also called which made it 5-way to the flop.

Flop ($75): 843

V1 bets $40, V2 calls, I call, and one person in the blinds call. Thoughts here?

Turn ($235): 2

The guy in the blinds instantly shoves all-in for his remaining $140. He then says "oh **** I mis-read my hand" and shows the guy in not in the hand next to him. I am 99.9% positive he's not angling. I've played with him before and he'd never pull a move like that and the guy who he showed started laughing too. Let's just assume we're positive he really did misread his hand here, because from my experience with him and being in the situation I was totally sure he really did.

V1 grunches for a minute then folds. V2 quickly counts it out and puts in the call. I pretty much know he doesn't have 56 as he would have gone all-in like he has already done 3 previous times.

Hero? Thoughts on all streets?

pre flop...3bet....you get your money from the loosest guy...he will call with a very wide range....

If the tight reg 4 bets...sure fold...if he calls...be careful

but you really want to get heads up with the loose player...3 bet not even close

As played reg fires out into a 4 way pot...and its a protected pot...he has an over pair at least...cak and evaluate

On turn...reg calls...the shove...he has a big pair. at least...he should be giving up with JJ having got 3 callers on the flop if it got checked to him...hell he should be trying to get AA to the river for showdown...but he calls a large bet..with two players behind, I'm folding...

I love multi way pots they are so easy to hand read in....

Tight V1 preflop raiser folded to the shove on the turn by the way.

I'm without doubt 3betting pre to 45ish here.

Based on your confidence that all in dude did missread his hand, loose guy chases draws no matter the price and would overbet or shove this turn with 5,6 I'm leaning a lot towards a raise for value on the turn.

You have one diamond, meaning one less out for buddy if he is chasing a flush. Guess you could call here, hope the river bricks and gets checked around. But that seems week to me.


Buddy that missread on that board must have 2 small cards, either small pp that he Thought turned a set or small connectors that he Thought made a straight.

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3 bet pre. 3 orbits isn't enough time to give this guy a range of KK+. Besides that you certainly don't want to go to the flop 4 ways. Also your otb, no one gives you credit and you actually have a hand! Gotta 3 bet this.

Flop, again raise for value. Tons of draws out there, multi way, your likely ahead and against players who love to chase draws, make them pay while protecting your equity.

as played I'm folding, regardless if he misread his hand he can still have you beat and there is another player in the pot that already called. I think the mistakes pre flop and on the flop can't be saved by over calling a shove here. yes your folding the best hand sometimes, but as played I'm folding.

so many leaks in this.

make your opponents pay while protecting your equity? Fold ott?? has to be the most OMC thing i've ever heard.

Grunch...

Hmm... tricky spot IMO. I can definitely see the reasoning for not 3 betting pre-flop... But it would probably make the hand easier to play if you had done so.

As played OTF, again... we are kinda stuck in the same spot as before the flop except the UTG Villain is less likely to have air and more likely to have 99+ given the fact that he bet the flop into 4 other players. I guess we are kinda stuck calling in this spot.

Come turn... A player that you didn't give any read on is the one you should be the most worried about. He also got rid of the potential AA and KK from V1. The loose Mexican donk can have anything here... If you are "sure" that this unknown player is telling the truth about mis reading his hand, then I guess you should shove to get V2 to commit the rest of his chips. Otherwise... well... Idk. I have never ran into a situation where someone took an incredibly strong action (shoving the turn into 3 players), and then before anyone else acts, announces that he made a mistake and misread his hand. That kind of stuff usually happens at showdown when he is forced to reveal his mistake, not before the other three players in the hand have acted.

Seriously though... what hand would the turn shoving Villain have "misread"? He thought he has 56 but really had 45? he thought he had A5 and really had A6???

in one of the hand i posted, regardless of how much we want to focus post flop, this is a perfect sqz iso play. we can narrow V1s range if he calls (he probably wont raise because of V2) and if blinds and V1 folds, we are HU vs V2, dream scenario.

i think the problem here is the range of hands the blinds called, it's so wide it can be anything!! him shoving here may not be necessary a made hand but pretty much at least combo draw, the V2 calling here can be set, 2pairs or draw as well.

ap, I fold...

Why so small?