I played this hand and would like some feedback on it.

Table is semi aggo no limped flops raises usually go 3ways to the flop, mostly regs with a few recs (so mostly recs)

Hero: solid winning image. TAG . not afraid to triple barrel jam if he thinks his villains are weak. known winning regular in the room.

Villian: older, mid 50's but very TAG/solid/break even to slight winner at best. Will raise any two broadways, SC, high S1G'ers, mid PP, when late. weekend player. Villain is afraid to be in pots with hero (he has said this to other regs as well as hero). He is an auto-bettor (will always bet when checked to). Usually folds to my 3bets but will setmine with a PP on occasion.

2/5 1K max ~1,800 eff

three limps to villain on the button, raises to 30
Hero in the BB w/QQ 3bets to 115
Villain flats

Flop is KKK

Hero?

Given your description of V, check-call is the best value line OTF. How much would you estimate "usually" in the case of his 3bet fold% vs you in position, deep?

I feel like this is one of those spots where V may fire one or two barrels (either value-owning himself or as a bluff) before checking back river if he doesn't have a K/AA. So my initial plan would be x/c flop/turn and lead river. Check turn if he checks back flop.

Is AA even in his 3bet calling range this deep?

If he is smart enough to fear the call, I would bet to get value from hands like 88 and AJ. If he is more of a brain dead maniac I would check and let him autobet. But that doesn't sound consistent with your read so I think betting is better.

Yeah I like check/call against this guy. I don't think he is going to stack off with JJ- here, so I'm not too worried about bilding a pot, and there's a good chance you have him drawing dead, so there's no need to protect against anything.

If he checks back flop, I'm looking for 2 streets of value with healthy bets to get value from 22-JJ. Probably going $175/$400 or something on turn/river.

Check/call the flop.
Donk turn and river.

Use timing tells to guage how much.
Generally going to default to ~1/2 PSB maybe a bit smaller given description.

Is he generally scared money, or just scared of playing pots with Hero?
If he is scared money, I'd bet smaller on the turn/river.

His 3-bet calling range seems weighted toward pp, so I'd lean toward betting the flop for value.

Checking this unique flop could be perceived as a monster. He may actually c/back this time, losing you one street of value. Depends of course on his level of thinking, ranging, etc.

not scared money at all.

Flop (240) KKK

Hero elected to cbet as he thinks a PP is a big part of his 3bet calling range and I would look more FOS if I bet out, and he would call the cbet often with a PP.

Hero cbet 100
Villain called


Turn (440)
KKK8

Hero bets 175 to keep the pot under control and to keep a PP in.
Villain called fairly quickly.

River (790)
KKK8J

Hero checked. (?).
Villain looks at hero for a minute then throws out two black chips.
Hero?

Im pretty tempted to cram to be honest.

I would have only checked the river if I planned to ck/rs otherwise I would have thrown out a $600 bet or whatever I felt he would call with JJ-

But if you don't think he can level him self into a call with JJ-88 here for a cram I'd raise to $800 or so.

After your check, he could be getting brave with TT/99/ AJs. Those account for 15 combos as opposed to AA (6), AK (4), KQs (1), which total 11 combos. If you think he would continue flop/turn with those, call as played. Imo, a crying call since black chips usually = value.

Raising is a consideration, clearly player – dependent. He is unlikely to call with worse. Could he fold AA? Don’t think so given pot odds.

I’d more likely B/F river, ~$250.

Curious ... Why so much after the flop/turn sizing? I'm thinking most rec players get shy at calling big river bets.

I don't see the point of check/jamming the river. Are we getting called by worse? Are we folding AA? Neither seems likely.

As played it's a call.

I think given river sizing we are ahead here almost 100% of the time.
I'm raising for value.

If he had bet more, it might be different, but if he has Kx and he played it this way, he did a terrible job of getting value imo.

As for ck/jam, I think that ck/jam gets called with close to the same frequency as ck/rs for $450-$600 and with almost the same range.
Now you could argue that he won't call a ck/rs with a range that we are ahead of, but then it would be a range question, and not a sizing question

He has a full house bro.
People can't fold full houses.

I think sizing isn't going to change his calling much here. Just his tanking time before calling.

I pretty clearly stated my reason. We should do it if we think that he will call with JJ-99. We shouldn't if we don't.

I like you line as long as you called river. Raising won't accomolish much I don't think, unless he is a complete idiot (or has you beat).

Looks to me the nuts or air, doubt he's value betting anything worse than QQ, actually smells a lot like Kx here with that bet, I'm calling all day but never really raising for value in this spot, my hand is a bluff catcher but that's about it at this point with the aforementioned action.

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What would V value bet otr that we beat? He doesnt seem like he is possible of floating this board, especially twice.

River c/r would be so spew.

Think you played the hand pretty well.

Curious on your river check since the V respect for your game almost eliminates bluffs from his range. What would you do if he threw 6 blacks into the pot?

Given the player dynamics, think B/F river for value may be more optimal.

I checked also to evaluate his river sizing if he bet, I don't know if I would have called a pot or near psb. This is a guy who hardly ever plays back at me, and wasn't afraid of that board. Aces slipped in and out of my mind quickly because he flatted me pf so I was more concerned about AK.

It appears by his sizing he was probably b/f'ing me but I wasn't about to lose more than I had to. idk if I had much FE anyway.

Usually I understand your posts but I don't understand this at all.

Best case we're flipping with the Villain on the river:

Board: Kd Kh Ks
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.957% 43.45% 02.51% 3410817 197296.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 54.043% 51.53% 02.51% 4045854 197302.50 { QQ }

The Villain played the hand very well. He can't see our cards and he's only getting value from JJ/QQ.

id check call as played

check decide vs a big bet

or bet 230-550/fold river

think you and villain played hands well, if I were villain id bet/fold river for 250-400

When you have a hand strong enough for 2 streets of value and you're against someone who can't stand a double barrel, I'd bet the flop and river. V won't give you credit otf, and he'll kind of relax when you don't fire the second barrel ott, then he'll not know what to make of the river bet. I like those 2 streets against that type of V.

Really don't like the river c/c. Ahead otr, bet. Behind otr, c/f. Only reason to c/c a river is to induce a missed hand to stab.

I would be a little uncomfortable against someone that's intimidated and is betting into you.

I bet the river against this type of player.