I don't understand your description. If he hasn't played a hand, how do you know he's not scared money? 10 minutes is what.....5 or 6 hands? If he's been super involved on his IPad, he's probably not even playing poker yet. Not old men are OMCs. I don't see too many well dressed, wealthy-looking, OMCs.

this important too. are you short stacked because of some coolers, lost a big hand recently? that can affect your image.

According to buffalohound, he is a well known shortstacker

Firstly, by in for a full stack. Second that's a snap ship on the flop imo. Im never folding to a half pot donk. If you arejt going to raise this hand you'd be better off just folding it pre. Nit it up until you are more comfortable postflop.

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Why raise pre with QJ if you are going to muck it when you hit one of the best flops possible? This is literally a no brainer jam, if villain is an OMC then wouldn't he donk a little more with a good made hand so that he does not give people odds to draw on that board?

Have you tried playing Parcheesi instead?

IF the V only donks sets, 2 pair, straights and AJ combos, then we are 2 to 1 dog with our hand faceup if we hit. I would fold if I truly thought this and hada reason to.

If he donks mostly TP hands, sprinkled with a few two pair etc., we are around 40% and I would raise a size that he might flat AJ KJ, but fold to large turn shove.

Not knowing the villain I have to default that this is TP trying to protect as well as block and find out where he is. I expect stronger to chk raise on avg.

This can be no more than a guess of default tendencies of this type of player since we know very little about him.

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Yes. This thread is a joke.

It was my first LP open at the table. Usually $30 gets respect, plus I welcomed a couple calls with initiate against weakish L/c ranges.

Why am I so short stacked? Are you trolling me or ignoring me? I think the former.

He hasn't played poker yet as far as I've seen. But he's obliviously wealthy (nice watch, fancy shoes) and he handles his chips well. This is a very wealthy area. I can say he's a tight, winning rec player with a high degree of certainty.

BH, please stop posting hands to try to teach. If you don't have a question, don't ask. Make a theory thread,

No. I bought in for $200.

If this was HU I would certainly ship or take a line to allow him to value own himself. Honestly, I'm more concerned about the other 4-5 players in the hand that we know little about there hands.

I'm not familiar with the game. Does it allow folding?

I'm fairly certain his range looks like TPmeh kicker, 2 pair, any set (I know that's a bad sizing with 2p or a set but he seems capable), or a pair with an OESD. Like I said I'm happy to get it in with him, but I think it's important that there's 5 other players in the hand who likely default check to the raiser.

That's certainly not my intention. And I'll keep that in mind with future (non-existent) OPs. But when multiple posters question my reads rather than follow my reads with logical conclusions I feel the need to reaffirm my original scenario. I welcome being corrected with player tendencies, and am happy to discuss said reads. However I don't feel that constitutes trying to "teach", but rather appears as a debate about the players. That said, I'll try to soften my responses.

Your range of what he could have doesn't make sense given the info you've told us about him.

A lot of people yelling at you in this thread but I'm going to try and give my thoughts on the situation without berating you :P

I'll just start by saying if your going to be playing a short stack like you are, you cant be folding in spots like this IMO.

You describe him as a good player, basically making him sound like your typical TAG winner. Would a winner over-limp JJ TT or 99 from the highjack? Highly unlikely imo. So from your description I would assume he doesnt have a set. The only hands I would be scared of is KQ or 78, but once again I would figure a tight winning player would raise KQ PF from the HJ. I would expect him to show up with JT T9 78 J9 a lot here if you shove and he calls tbh.

Versus any 2 pair hand we're roughly 50% equity and I think if this guy understands ranges, we'll pick up a decent amount of fold equity when we shove if he has a hand like T9 J9.

The only hand I'm truly scared of is him snap calling and flipping over KQ.

As far as the way you played the hand.. with your stack size, I think it's fairly standard to ship over the top here. Even if your called you got plenty of back door outs.

Your other thread seems to give you the lie, but you still would have been fine if you had not descended to insults. Please keep that in mind with future (non-existent) OPs.

While you said "constructive criticism" in there, you don't get to determine what is constructive and what we have to just take on faith.

I miswrote on the above. I meant if he donks top pair i would raise and shove over a 3 bet. I would never raise then fold there. I must have been half sleep when i wrote that.

OP I agree with others who have said that your raise pre is a tad too small. I believe it should have been in the $40-45 range. Having said that I don't see a reason for the raise in the first place. You have a hand that plays well multiway. It flops and turns well. Why not see a 1bb flop with a chance of making a huge score?

I'm not sure you can call. The pot would be 390 and you'd have 260 behind with 3-4 left to act. Assuming all others fold, you're likely to put the rest in on the turn. You may as well try to maximize your FE on the flop, although I don't think you have any or very much.