I'm a little uncertain as how to play a hand like KQo in ep. The 2/5 I play will most certainly get multiway (4+) action unless someone raises huge. If I make it $25 or $30 the pot will be $100+ and flop top pair I'll essentially have a bluff catcher because half the table will be in with a super loose range. A similar thing will happen if I limp so I'm thinking because I'll thin the field AND get a call from worse QX/KX I should be making it $50 with a $500 stack and committing on K/Q high flops most of the time. Does that sound right? It seems criminal to fold preflop with all the crap that people come in with.
If someone thinking does happen to realise my range is not polar then I will adjust.

super laggy 2/5's i fold kq utg, utg +1 +2... its hard to play oop when 2,3,4 players are always calling, even if theyre bad.

He said loose...not laggy^^^^

Limp in early position and raise in late position......and no....it doesn't seem right to make it $50 to go with any hand in any position.

In a loose game, position is king. Unless you're pretty deep (stacks are around $1000 or more), just let KQo go in EP. If the game is deep, then limping KQo is fine as long as you understand that unless you have a SD or 2pr+, you missed the flop and are looking to see a cheap show down if you stay in.

Here's some information on polarization. Compared to QQ+, AK, KQo is not a polarized hand with that range.

thanks for the link to that post. Didn't read it yet...but it looks like it could be helpful

I limp KQo from ep in these types of games and then evaluate what to do if someone raises (ie. consider position of raiser, the raiser's range, amount of raise, stack of raiser, how many other people have called the raise in between, how many other people have limped behind me etc.)

ok... if you are going to limp Kqo in EP then what do we do when this happens:

1-you pick up 4 other limpers and the BB makes it $100 to go?
2-you pick up 4 limpers and the flop comes K96r and it is checked to you from BB.
3-you pick up 4 limpers and the flop is QT2 w 2 of a suit and it is checked to you
4-you pick up 4 limpers and the flop is Qt2 w 2 of a suit and BB leads for $25


Just run me through these....

1) I lol at the BB and fold... TBH there is some players where this is so clearly 99/1010/JJ that you could make an argument for limp/shipping KQo (depending on table dynamic, image, pf raiser, eff stacks etc.) but that's a topic for another thread.

2) I bet 3/4 - 4/5 pot and hope someone calls with their Kx they called w/ pf, but am wary of aggression on future streets

3) Same as #2

4) I call OTF. If someone raises behind me I fold. If everyone else folds and BB leads again on a brick turn I call, but probably fold if BB fires a 3rd bullet on a brick rvr. If BB checks OTT, depending on my feel and my image at the table (usually mine is laggy and obnoxious so I fire) I either fire 3/4 pot and hope to get called or check behind if my image is tight and don't think I can get called OTT and fire 3/4 pot on a brick rvr

You have been run through these

1. fold
2. bet
3. bet
4. trickiest one, raise or call depending on table dynamics. Fold if someone raises

I am not saying any of these is a confusing spot but when we limp it presents some problems OOP. #4 is the tricky one here. And I put #3 in bc QT is in a lot of ranges.

#1 is villian dependent though... I had a player in mind when I made that one. Its an easy fold to an unknown. But I am talking about the player who makes this move from the B, SB, BB often in these limped or $15 raise with callers position.

It is a fold for me in this type of game, which I play in often.

I just feel like I'm giving up so much equity by folding because I consistently see a few players (regs and recs) limp ATC. I think it's an easy limp/call 3 way but when it gets super multiway the value of it goes down tremendously because of rio.

Depending on the villain, KQo is one of the very best hands to shove with here. (if villain is one of those aggro players who see ATo or 77 and make this outlandish raise, but would fold to shove)

oh, and if game is really loose, KQo is also a hand that will do very very well making Kxx and betting 3 times.