I will summarize the action, then post a couple follow-up questions. Any thoughts are welcome. Game is $1/2.

V1: Loose, aggressive, 40 y/o male. ~$200
V2: Tight, passive, 50 y/o male. ~$250
V3: Loose, awful, 21 y/o male. $100
Hero: Tight, passive (I know, I know), 27 y/o male. Covers all other players.

Pre-flop
V1 raises to $9 UTG. V2 calls. V3 calls. Hero (10, 10) calls. Call was to avoid a re-raise all-in on a raise in a hand where I was likely behind.

Flop (4 players)
K108. V1 bets $17. V2 calls. V3 calls. Hero raises to $65. V1 folds. V2 calls. V3 folds.

Turn (2 players)
K1087. V2 checks. Hero goes all-in.

Questions

1. How bad is it to call pre-flop with the logic listed above?
2. Is there ever a time we don't want to be all-in given this action and these players?

Other than V1, we don't know anyone's position in the hand. But me personally, I'm fine flatting 1010 here.

I think your turn raise could/should be bigger. By the time action gets to you OTT, there's $89 in the pot. After your raise, the pot is $154. It costs your three Vs $48 each to continue in the hand. On that wet of a flop, I'm typically going bigger. We can get value from several worse hands and charge multiple draws.

On the river, the pot is $202. V2 has $180ish. Shoving seems good.

Sorry but I don't understand logic of not raising pre because of worry about being behind. Sounds super nitty for my game. If you won't raise here, when 10s likely have their best equity, would you only raise when you hit a set?

I'd much rather iso a V, and risk getting reraised preflop with 1010, than to go to the flop with three opponents.

As played, I'd increase flop bet since you're not charging enough to the draws (and against 3 players, you know this hit one or more of them).

I agree you should raise larger. In fact, why not all-in flop? It's $106 in the pot after your call and the stack sizes are $225, $175, and $75. The board is super wet, so a ton of turn cards kill your action or put you behind. (What's your plan if A, Q, J, 9, or 7 of spades hits?)

I also think your raising range would be pot committed after pretty much any reasonably-sized flop raise. And I'd be raising all-in with tons of combo draws here, so I need to show up with sets too.

Raising>calling>folding pre

Without thinking about SPR I like a pot sized raise pre, maybe a tad more. I make it $50. Happy to take it down. I like my chances if called. $50 (raise of $41) is a good sizing. If LAG calls, V3 shoves for $100 total (raise of 50), door is open and we can shove with best hand, maybe LAG incorrectly folds overs for $200 more.

Not a SPR guy, but if we get two callers, flop will be $150 with $200 behind. Pretty easy shove on safe boards.

As played raise more on the turn. Sizing is less than a half pot raise which probably gives opponents correct odds to call with flush draws, OESD. Also makes a turn shove kind of big. Maybe I'm wrong but I think we should go bigger.

Well played. I don't think there are many 50 y/o LAGs out there, guy might've just had some hands he could be aggro with.

I like the flat pre flop. You've got position and a hand that you can play well post flop. Easy to get away if you get a bad flop and you can make money when you flop over pair or set. I don't think raising pre and either winning a small pot or risk getting 3! is always better than flat calling and playing good poker post flop.

Post flop, the raise might be a little small. Don't love that the two bad players folded and the passive player called. When passive players call a flop bet and then call a raise behind, they have hands. Straight draw gets there on the turn, but not the flush draw. He can have a lot of hands, from a big K to a flush draw. I like the turn ship. This hand seems pretty well played.

I know players want to three bet TT pre flop. Depending on the situation, yes. But here, with a bad player opening, a passive player calling and another bad player calling, I prefer just calling. If the flop is bad, get away with $9 invested but when you hit, probably stack at least one opponent.

Well played given the call pre flop. I would prefer a 3bet pre, how tight is this game if 1010 is likely behind? V1s range has to be wider than jj+

Thanks for all the thoughts.

For any who are curious, the villain had pocket kings on this hand for a flopped set. He never showed any aggression pre or post-flop, but it obviously worked out for him to double up in this case.

I figured my all-in turn bet could receive calls from 2 pair, flush draws, maybe big kings, and maybe straight draw hands. I certainly didn't see the set over set coming, but that's how it goes sometimes.

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