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04-03-2024 , 03:17 PM
Blinds $1-$2.

V1 has a stack of $80, V2 with $150 to start the hand, I cover both. Both are unimaginative players.

THE HAND: V2 limps in UTG, I raise to $14 in UTG1 with QsQc and get 4 callers (including V1 in in MP and V2.

FLOP: Kh7d2s (pot: $64, 5-ways)

Blinds check, UTG checks, I down-bet $12, V1 calls, Blinds fold, UTG calls.

TURN: Kh7d2s Ac (pot: $100, 3-ways)

V1 checks. We….?
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04-03-2024 , 03:50 PM
**** board. Shoulda shipped pre
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04-03-2024 , 04:13 PM
Terrible turn card and two villains force you to slow down. Try to check this down and give up to a substantial bet. You could have the best hand here but with both an ace and king on the board hands you beat are not likely to bet. You might be able to bluff somebody off a KX after the ace hits but it's going to be too expensive to find out.
I don't particularly like preflop but depending on how tight the table is could be fine. Flop is a weird situation. Normally such a small bet would be bad but the board is really dry, no hand that beats you is folding and you still beat most hands. It just happens you got the one turn card you really didn't want to see.
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04-03-2024 , 04:17 PM
Davo! Welcome back. This a normal game or spread limit?


Check turn obv.


Maybe bet river half pot, if checked to.
In some ways happier to call half pot bet on river. Much less happy to call bigger bets.
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04-03-2024 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
Davo! Welcome back. This a normal game or spread limit?
This is still $2-$100 spread-limit, but the Villains were so short it wasn’t really relevant. They have stacks of $50 and like $110 left once we reach the Turn.
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04-03-2024 , 10:21 PM
I think stack depth is your main enemy here. Had you been deeper, this could have been a good hand to turn into a bluff. This shallow you're probably not getting anyone to fold a King and the flop downbet might mean someone stuck around with an Ace. I'd give up now.
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04-04-2024 , 04:44 AM
I would check flop. Turn can go either way but they’ll have some Ax due to flop sizing. I would probably try to get to showdown, you’re blocking the most likely Kx that could fold.
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04-04-2024 , 10:15 AM
You should be listening to Jerome Powell's speech and selling your mortgages.

Agree with Moxterite and OmahaDonk overall.

I would just add that against weak-tight V's with fold button, I think a 100 max bluff can work here, as H has all the AK in this spot.
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04-04-2024 , 10:59 AM
I hate this game structure.

Not sure I understand the reasoning for down betting multi-way with opponents in front and behind. Are we betting small just to try and define opponents' ranges, expecting strong KX or better to raise?

Think I would rather just give up and check flop, or bet pot to put max pressure on weak KX, unless I know V's will limp-call pre with stronger KX combos that won't fold here.

AP, I like the idea of betting $100 on the turn ace, to rep AA, KK, or AK. Hard for either opponent to call with just KX or AX. Feels weird to turn QQ into a bluff, but not sure what else we can do here, if we want to take down the pot.

Nice thing about V's being short stacked is that we can't make too big a mistake by turning our hand into a bluff.

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04-05-2024 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Blinds $1-$2.

V1 has a stack of $80, V2 with $150 to start the hand, I cover both. Both are unimaginative players.

THE HAND: V2 limps in UTG, I raise to $14 in UTG1 with QsQc and get 4 callers (including V1 in in MP and V2.

FLOP: Kh7d2s (pot: $64, 5-ways)

Blinds check, UTG checks, I down-bet $12, V1 calls, Blinds fold, UTG calls.

TURN: Kh7d2s Ac (pot: $100, 3-ways)

V1 checks. We….?
RESULT: I turned my Queens into a bluff! I reasoned they don’t have enough aces in their range (should just be A2s and A7s), and wouldn’t stack off with a King (when I have ALL the aces), so I bet $100 and they both folded.

Possible of course that I was “bluffing” with the best hand, but with two in there I really felt like I was betting someone off a King.
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04-05-2024 , 10:33 AM
Yeah, I don't mind that play so much. Ax hands are a big part of your range and unless Vs have A7/A2, AK, or a set, they're not going to be too happy about that ace and the max bet.
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04-05-2024 , 08:59 PM
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RESULT: I turned my Queens into a bluff! I reasoned they don’t have enough aces in their range (should just be A2s and A7s), and wouldn’t stack off with a King (when I have ALL the aces), so I bet $100 and they both folded.

Possible of course that I was “bluffing” with the best hand, but with two in there I really felt like I was betting someone off a King.
Awesome. Nice hand. Chalk one up for the good guys.
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