I raised to 35 utg +2 with KK , Tightest player at table but not rock raises to 85 in SB, guy in BB calls ,BB is very loose and could have wide range.
I thought about it and decided to smooth call because effective stacks were 2000 and I had not seen him 3bet once. He would peg me as LAG but solid.
flop is 9d 7d 3c and villian bets 150 BB folds and I call 150
At this point I put him on Aces or Queens , AK or JJ is possible but not likely for him.
turn is 4h he checks and I decided to check, I should have bet because at this point I think he has queens and feel in control , I thought with him I could get him to call decent bet on river w queens or keep pot smaller if I bet or call and he has aces and playing it weird.
River is a queen and he bets 400! I was so disgusted with how I played it and did not think this guy had that bluff in him with AK or JJ and I folded.
comments and insults are welcome!

Disclaimer: I've never played this deep.

Your line and logic behind it make plenty of sense to me.

I can go either way on the turn actually. I would probably look to get a bet in on the turn or the river, but not both in this situation so that I didn't value town myself against AA. I slightly prefer betting the turn though since that looks most like a set and should get him to check most rivers, allowing us control of the betting.

That river card is pretty gross though...

Was the river a diamond? Do you have the K of diamonds?

I don't mind flatting pre because you could easily be up against aces, and a 4bet could scare QQ and the loose BB out of the pot.

I also don't mind checking the turn for pot control. In this situation, you are likely WA/WB if the SB is as tight as you say he is. The only draws are in his range are AKdd and AQdd.

With that said, your hand is SOOOO under repped. If villain has any bluffs in him, this becomes a call, if not, then this is probably a good lay-down.

Thanks for the comments, Can't remember what suit river Q was but it wasn't a diamond.

yeah i think this has to be a call unless you know he's literally never bluffing

This was practically a 3-bet min-raise from the tightest player at the table in SB, and I don't think such player would even 3-bet with QQ from the SB, and certainly not that small.

I think the right thing to do would have been 4-bet smallish back at him, and fold to his 5-bet. Set mining with KK's can't be profitable...

As played, turn was a pot controlling check, and I'll lay down KK on the river to AA without sweat.

Grunch. Your thought process is solid. Flatting in position is the way I would have played it too. I don't love Spr of 9.x. it puts you in weird stack positions where u aren't stacking to tight player and leaves too much room where bb with wide range has room to maneuver and steal pot. I wish his 3b was more closer to 100 making Spr more manageable. Based on preflop which I don't4b bc he will fold out jj/QQ and call or 5b with with kk+. So well played pre.

Post I call flop, check back turn as I want to keep the hands we beat in there so we get value on river. Also pot control vs rift villain is good. If the pot gets too big you are almost never good.

As played I think you made a range, a plan, and no matter how gross it is, this is a fold otr. I actually think he has AA.

Thanks all, It's funny, it shows you how compicated deep stack poker really is because any comments here are reasonable and any course taken suggested here is not a huge mistake. I definitely considered 4bet and fold to 5 bet. I took the other route just for the fun and experience. So, if I do that, I can't complain about getting in tough spot. That same night I had two other times I called off the rest of my stack of of about 1100 when starting the hand, to an all in shove from good players. Once with top two and one other time with KK. luckily I was right both times.
One thing to consider and might have made it a call against the tight player is at 5/10 game even a tight player has that bluff in his arsenal when I under rep hand. Hmmm , more experience in my subconcsious for next time.

Actually I think you played this great. You don't wanna be 4-betting rocks with KK, it accomplishes nothing, except killing your value vs worse hands, and only getting action from aces.

After you let him take the initiative, just call flop. I like like checking turn, and betting large on the river, making it look bluffy. I'm pretty sure you got 2-outed this hand.

Wp.

i probably play this the same way.

If you do not know his range that well then it was played fine. Soul reading his river bet size makes a big difference and you are most likely spot on with the fold. This is tricky though, since many times unless we know our villain really well, if called, they can and will show up at times with white blackbirds that we never suspected.

His riverbet sizing spoke volumes about his range. (unless of course he has some nice play to him which is not presented)

You have MUBS, first you put the guy on aces then queens. Where was this hand played? Even the tightest players 3bet light at 5/10 AQ,JJ,AKs should be in a NITs range. If you put guys on single hands your not using ranges, your soul reading.

So let's go with your read, fold preflop he has aces.

As played, No way I'm not calling this river bet after he checks back the turn. If I run into a set I want to see it. Who is really the nit?

I can' t argue that it may be a call but the I am confident in 4 hand max range for this particular player. I think I was a little nitty to not call and see given everything but this guy was that tight and ABC. He wasn't very active and if he was lighter or bluffed , it was the only move he made all night.
He had not 3 bet previously and saw him flat w QQ and AK earlier, not to say he wouldn't do it to me cause I had been open raising a fair amount.

I was going to ask what's your perceived image. No way I'm folding with your image.

*Grunch*

In this situation I am not flatting his three bet for this very reason of not knowing where you are if a Q or J hits. I think I four-bet small and fold to a shove and if he does flat it's most likely going to be checked to you on the flop and you can go on from there with pot controlling and evaluating. This obviously would be different if this villain was not so tight but with described villain I'm four betting.

Well played.

Don't like the flat pre. You're way ahead of the cold callers range and you can easily fold to a 5 bet or set mine if you're getting the right odds.

You have to puke/fold river here. I really like the line you took. Against a rock checking turn is probably the best way to get paid off by jj/qq. Well played imo...and if villain is flatting QQ pre then yes he is a rock lol.

Might be hard to believe for those new to live poker, but a true live rock has AA here, QQ, maybe the other KK, but unlikely. He never has JJ, just from the PF play. May sound insanely narrow, but that's the way old live nits play.