Should I allow more turn discussion or go right to next action?

I think call on the turn with intention of calling most rivers. In this case we keep his range wider and he will push some blefs on the river.
The question is which rivers do we fold?any J? Any 6? How about 3rd diamond?

call turn, play rivers in position

V1 - BTN is playing too tight for short handed but again too early to tell
V2- SB playing loose as expected
V3- BB seems to be the better of them, he has raised 2x but CO/BTN. C-bet and folds each time.

4 handed:

CO Hero (little over €1000)
v1 BTN - little under €1k
v2 SB - little under €1k
v3 BB - maybe €1100


Hero is dealt T7


Well, I raised.

I made it $30 everyone folds but BB.


Flop (€65):748

Villain 3 Checks Hero bets €40 Villain calls.

Turn (€145) T

Villain checks Hero bets €90 Villain raises to €225 Hero calls

River (€595) 2

Villain bets €510 Hero?

Blankest river as you can get.
So if H calls raise on the turn he should call the river.

However H is getting only 46% pot odds...
Given V range of made hands and blefs:
88-77, 44, AdJd-Ad9d, KdJd-Kd9d, Qd9d+, J9s, JdTd, T9s, 97s-96s, 9s8s, 9h8h, 9c8c, 65s, J9o, T9o Hero only wins 42%. And i think the range that i gave to V is quite wide.

So in conclusion i think H needs to fold.

fwiw hero is getting ~2.2:1 and needs only 31.6% equity to call here

He has no checking range on any river once you flat turn, you both know that in-hand, so call.

Very easy call vs a raise ott and call off river. Top of range, block two pair combos. Also quite a nice board for villain to xr 76s type hands and combo draws ott.

Flop is whatever, bet or x are fine.

I really dont like repopping turn because it leaves our calling range very weak. Assuming he's a reg i'd call my continuing range ott.

It would be odd for a V to polarize his range on such a dynamic board by checking twice ...which makes him heavy in middle quality draws on the flop like 69/J9s/Txdd/9xdd/T8cc/99 more than sets/56/78... some got there, some didn't...

Still like jamming turn to deny equity, force him to bluff catch w 44/56, blocking 4 set combos,

Soul read is 99, but he has a lot of hands...still calling.

As played call

Easy call. Villain may have 56 or a set here, but Im never folding. I think you win most of the time.

Hero needs about 31% equity. Your range analysis needed to be done on the turn. Calling the turn to fold the river (especially a complete blank) is a total disaster. If hero called the turn assuming he's ahead, then he is still ahead on the river.

River action: Hero calls, Villain flips J9 and scoops.

Sorry, you ran into the top of villain's range. NH.

Large sizing is pretty concerning to me especially given river... I think solid player would at least consider giving up sometimes on this super brick river expecting us to call very often. Personally if I had Ad here I would probably never continue. Vs small turn range and large river bet might make me feel okay calling turn folding river


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Raise all-in. This is starting to look like JT.

This is how villain would likely play that hand, as well. Flush draw, gutter, two overs. It's a great hand to bet flop with, and even a better hand to check-raise with that turn card. I don't see villain playing J9 this way. He wouldn't risk the diamonds, unless he's got the J9, in which case he'd want to keep you in the hand. The check-raise would push you off of everything except a set and 65.

The thing that throws me off is him betting betting basically pot into you after you call a strong-looking x/r. What is his goal here? Assuming he's got you beat, what is he realistically looking to extract that kind of value from? He's basically hoping you've got some kind of set minimum to even consider calling. Would he be likely to bet pot with a nuttish hand OTR?

When you call the turn x/r you're saying to him that you're strong enough to see a showdown. If you had a straight or a set, you'd likely ship the turn 100BB deep, so calling signals to the villain that you have neither. If he knows you're a thinking player, he's very likely to bet here with the knowledge that you wouldn't expect him to bet in this spot unless he had it. When he bets river he's trying to tell you that I know you don't have a set or the second straight, but he's trying to convince you that he's got the nut straight.

The thing is, he's full of ****.

All in.

BB's read is he's a good player (or at least one of the best at the table) and he flatted a raise pre, heads up, OOP. This is usually a PP - what two pair combos is he raising with ott? Why would he c/r an OP ott?

His raise sizing does look like a value raise, I don't think this guy would be getting creative after hero put in that much money, he would have done so otf.

On paper this looks like a set.

What happened with this hand?

if you fold river after calling turn then youve misplayed it. Like i said, you need about a 40% bluffing range to gain equity here, i have full faith he is bluffing at least 25% on this river, likely more than 25% and less than the required amount for the turn call.

eeeshhh this is kinda gross with that sizing on river.

Turn call is good

River is flip a coin - probably a call vs this villain.

when he raised pre it was 2x or $20??? Or he raised 2 times.

Does he ever river bluff and if so, what is his normal size? is it static or does he size his bluffs weaker.

You are pretty much at the top of your range, and he could be raising a huge drawing hand like Tx diamonds. This river bet should fold out most of your 1 pair hands that beats his hand. It's also a value bet you almost have to call if he is capable of bluffing especially 4 handed where people like to get a little crazy.

Hero Calls, Villain shows 87

was it suited

Spades, wish hè was double sooted

+1

that's why I don't like the small 3x utg/first to act raises in 5/10.

It's really pretty standard deep live FR when 3bets are prevalent. I don't think I'd adjust upward for this sh lineup.

Yeah, and I love when they do it, it creates some profitable squeeze opportunities but Dochrohan did get it heads up, and if I saw his hand pre I would still want him to call anyway.