PAHWM: 2/5NL TT on the button
12-02-2011
, 10:13 AM
Calling this river after checking back the turn against an aggressive opponent is standard imo. However, betting the turn is better.
**Not betting turn for value 'because we don't want to get raised' is a classic leak IMO**.
The way to handle the turn is to think through villain's range/tendencies, and then to either bet/fold or bet/call. There are times to check-back the turn against aggressive opponents, but it's on dry, WA/WB situations, because then we are not risking much with a free card and their river bluffing range >> their turn calling range. Here wasn't such a spot.
Incidentally - what would you do if A
comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q
? 3
? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
**Not betting turn for value 'because we don't want to get raised' is a classic leak IMO**.
The way to handle the turn is to think through villain's range/tendencies, and then to either bet/fold or bet/call. There are times to check-back the turn against aggressive opponents, but it's on dry, WA/WB situations, because then we are not risking much with a free card and their river bluffing range >> their turn calling range. Here wasn't such a spot.
Incidentally - what would you do if A
comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q? 3? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
12-02-2011
, 10:32 AM
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Incidentally - what would you do if A comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q? 3? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q? 3? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
12-02-2011
, 01:14 PM
Quote:
Calling this river after checking back the turn against an aggressive opponent is standard imo. However, betting the turn is better.
**Not betting turn for value 'because we don't want to get raised' is a classic leak IMO**.
The way to handle the turn is to think through villain's range/tendencies, and then to either bet/fold or bet/call. There are times to check-back the turn against aggressive opponents, but it's on dry, WA/WB situations, because then we are not risking much with a free card and their river bluffing range >> their turn calling range. Here wasn't such a spot.
Incidentally - what would you do if A comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q? 3? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
**Not betting turn for value 'because we don't want to get raised' is a classic leak IMO**.
The way to handle the turn is to think through villain's range/tendencies, and then to either bet/fold or bet/call. There are times to check-back the turn against aggressive opponents, but it's on dry, WA/WB situations, because then we are not risking much with a free card and their river bluffing range >> their turn calling range. Here wasn't such a spot.
Incidentally - what would you do if A
comes on the river and he makes the same bet? K? Q? 3? Are you snapping all of them? Folding all of them? Do you see how it's so easy for you to make a mistake on the river with your line? You got somewhat lucky that a complete blank came and he made a somewhat obvious bluff that polarized his range. Quite a few river cards could cause you to make a mistake here...
Your posts in this thread provided me a good learning tool to better understand what could be done better. No need to be in a guessing game OTR when we still are ahead of his range/have the initiative. In a sense I am being a showdown monkey?
Last edited by Pay4Myschool; 12-02-2011 at 01:31 PM.