Thin value? It is almost impossible for us to be ahead. If he has small connectors, he has a straight or two pair....let's not forget a possible flush. If he has a smaller pp, he almost certainly hit a set. Only hand that can pay ilus is 99. I say cross your fingers and pray he has AQ, but I'm almost positive our weak preflop play caused us to lose this hand.

ship it

V1 ($27) BTN - Just sat at the table bought in for 100, stack is down to 27. He was just at the table next to me and busted out. Haven't seen a hand of his yet, or him raise, but I've played with him before. Opening range is 77+, QJo+.

V2 ($200) CO - Tighter kid at the table, young, dressed kind of nice. Haven't seen one of his hands yet, but seems like he is trying to learn the game better. So far every time hes raised, its been hu and he took it down with a c-bet. Opening range is prob 99+ KQo+

V3 ($90)UTG+2 - A regular 2/5 player, not sure why hes sitting at 1/2, but is a crazy player. I've played with him multiple times, and is willing to call with literally ATC because the "Price is Right." Also have seen him bluff this session, the he bet $100 OTR on a Q high board with 3rd pair, and got called by kings. Opening range is 22+, 67s+, T9o+, QJo+, A5s+. Limp calling range is ATC that are suited, followed by most SC, and pretty often a bluff. Knows about position etc. has a little FTP card protector, and claims he used to be a torny player online.

V4 ($300) BB - Older Canadian guy at the table. Seems to be paying everybody off. Payed me off twice. Loves to call down with any pair. I have not seen him raise or make moves preflop, but post flop I've seen him try to bluff another guy who had been bluffing a lot off TPTK by raising OTT, and shoving OTR. His limp/calling range is any Ace, followed by suited 1-gappers and 56+ and Q10+

Hero ($300) SB - Playing pretty Tight for the night, won 3 hands, went to showdown twice, vs V4, showed TP, both times and won. I haven't been limping either, maybe once or twice this session.

Note* There is usually a raise 80% of an orbit.

V1 had just lost the other $70 of his stack about 2 hands ago and I think is tilted.

V1 straddles for $5 OTB.
Hero is in the SB with 1010 and... calls $5
V4, and V3 call $5
V2 Makes it $25
V1 goes all in for $27
Hero, V4, and V3 all call.

I know this is horrible, but I'm giving V2 credit for a big hand or PP here.
I don't want to raise here and be called by V2 only to be in a bloated pot OOP
I decide to Limp. Why? I had the idea of L/RR'ing because I thought V1 would shove. Also worse comes to worse, I can set mine if limped.

Flop $130

568

Hero donks $67
V4 calls
V3 calls all in
V2 sigh folds (lul AK)

I planned on B/F'ing as tmckendry said. Its the only way to find out where I am at.

Turn Main $130 Side $201

568 - 3

Hero checks, V4 calls.

Were now heads up with the older canadian who will call that flop with basically any 7, , 8, and any overpair.

River Main $130 Side $201

568 - 3 -2

Hero checks
V4 checks

Hero flips 10's, V3 flips 82 to scoop everything.


Now its obvious that I lost this hand because of not L/RR'ing preflop.
How was my betting OTF, and OTR if villain bets 75, are we folding or calling?

We are insta folding if villian bets on the river. He is not betting with any hand that we beat. Think about this way, he checked back a flush, so think about how strong he is when he actually bets.

And yeah, i like the limp reraise here actually. But i cant say I would have thought about it on my own in game, i prob just raise.

Something to think about...

raise pre

once you limp i'm more likely to squeeze than limp/call from SB

How I presume this hand worked:

1) you put him on 99+ KQo+ from the CO, which seems pretty incredibly tight for a player who doesnt limp regularly.
2) the flop comes unders, you check, he bets, and you magically put him on some wider range and call the flop bet or what?

The thing is, you are technically a favorite vs this range vs just one opponent, but being a favorite doesnt mean you want to play the hand. If you C/R you turn your hand into a bluff, if you bet out, thats just awful, if you check/call, then there are almost no turn cards you want to see, and villan can basically play perfect poker against you.

This situation is one of the easiest dead-money plays that will present itself, you should be drooling in anticipation. Quickly and subtly confirm button's stack (you should have done this as soon as he straddled), and raise an amount that will allow him to re-open the action when it gets to him, in this case $15 is ideal. Why raise instead of limp-reraise? I'll tell you:

1) Limping allows trash hands to come along and does not define the range of hands that raise behind you.
2) By raising, you not only encourage players behind you to play more straight-forwardly, you also get them to call $15 which they're never getting back.
3) We don't find ourselves OOP with a small overpair in a 5 way pot wondering what the hell to do.

SeaULater feels that we're being too obvious by raising just enough to re-open the action with a button shove. We're playing in a 1-2 NL game in Florida, not a 5-10 NL at the Bellagio. These guys have no concept of strategic raises and will simply assess their hand each time the action comes to them. "$15? Sure, I'll call that with my 85s. Oh, it's $32 now? Well, ok, I, oh, the original raiser made it $100? I guess I'll fold." As fun101 pointed out, the vast majority of the time you will end up in a $120 pot with only $30 invested as a big favorite.

Sure, a small percentage of the time someone will be cunning enough to see what you're doing and slowplay their big hand, but these guys are very rare at low stakes and the positives far outweigh the negatives.

As far as post-flop, I think you played about as well as can be expected, but your first mistake was the open limp. After that, you have no idea where you are and are hoping for the best. Take control of the hand and play some poker!