So villain is OMC like - old, seen him min 3b pre with AA, xb rivers when the river is sort of scary but u should bet (like he has AK on AK249 and flush comes in and it’s x to him), bets way too big to deny equity, etc. So he raises to 15, another player calls, i 3b to 50 with AQ, only he calls.

FLOP A 57r $118

x, i bet 25, he xr to 50, i call

seems like i should just fold at this point. i doubt he is raising anything that AQ beats….Ax that i bet are always xc.

TURN 6 (put a fd) 218

he bets 60, ???

Positions? Vs OMC fold all 3 decision points and it’s not close. We exploit OMCs by not paying them off.

You forgot to include effective stacks...but it's irrelevant, because you decided to contribute to your elders.

We Boomers thank you.

Gross. Just call pre (or fold). Definitely fold flop.

Strategy against OMC like this, as far as I can tell, is fold unless you have a situation you can trap and/or cooler them. I.e set mining if the price is right.

Sometimes I'll call with AQs pre but the offsuit version is a fold. Flop I can see peeling to the minraise but then would be folding turn

Slightly dissenting voice here. You need a really good read to make very large deviations away from normal play. I would want a really good understanding of my opponent before just folding AQ preflop to a single raise. What does this guy do with his medium strength hands? If he's a limp-caller and only wakes up with an open raise with a massive hand then fine, go ahead and fold. If he's just a standard tight player with say a 10-15% opening range then this is a squeeze all day. You are way ahead of the caller's range and probably take the pot down preflop a fair bit. If you're on the button I could see a case being made for overcalling but I'd much rather just make the standard squeeze play the vast majority of the time unless I was sure enough of my opponent that I knew folding a hand as strong as AQ would be a profitable move.

Flop bet is fine, small enough that he can be put to the test with AJ/QQ/JJ. You're then getting nearly 8/1 on a call to the check-raise - I mean you immediately improve to 2 pair 6% of the time and there's got to be a small chance (even if <5%) that this is not AK or AA, but maybe AQ or a hand that doesn't know what to do.

By the turn the information picture is definitely clearing up and does increasingly look like AK or AA (only you know whether hands like 77 are in there as well). This time you're "only" getting 4.5/1 on your call and there is a modest chance you are drawing dead, with the additional milking bet from someone who bets huge to deny equity most of the time I can get on board with a turn fold now. You're there and have your own impressions, if you are very confident that this guy is very exploitable and that he's got a huge hand here all the time then you can make folds earlier in the hand but make sure your OMC read is based on substantial amounts of hands rather than "he's a bit wrinkly"

Even though stacks and positions were left out, the golden rule is we don't 3bet tight players with AQ like ever (or flat. Just fold pre to a true OMC).

+1

Also easy check back on flop in an attempt to eke out maybe one street later against KK-.

G/thread,imoG

First, I just want to make sure he really is an OMC, and that should be less than 10/5/1 over a significant sample size.

3bing an UTG OMC raise with AQo is lighting money on fire. Way closer to a fold. I could live with a call.

I don't hate the bet when he checks given it might be KK, but I would just check back since you're only really worried about him spiking 2 cards.

The min c/r on the flop screams AA, even though there's only one combo. AK at worse. So easy peasy fold. If it's anything less you got your OMC read completely wrong.

lol to the 3b. What are you doing?

PRE - I understand the 3B in theory, because we have AQ, and there's someone else who called the OMC's raise, but...I don't like it.

It's not just that we're 3B'ing the OMC. It's that I don't want that other guy out of the pot. He might be flatting the OMC's raise with a strong hand. But even if he's out of line, and calling too wide, OMC's tend to get twitchy in multi-way pots, especially when they're OOP.

Like, I expect the OMC to telegraph the strength of his hand more often multi-way than when we're heads-up. Multi-way and OOP, he's going to give up and check when he misses with AK, and blast off with AA/KK. It's so much easier to play when we have position against an OMC in a multi-way pot.

FLOP - I understand range-betting, but not against OMC. Just check back. If we bet, and he x/r's, it's just an insta-fold. Even if he min-clicks it. It's a fold. He's PRAYING you get spicy and come over the top.

TURN - I'm never getting here. OCCASIONALLY, if there's a FDFD on the flop, that completes on the turn, an OMC might rage-fold 1P if we bet to rep the flush, and we don't need to bet huge. I'm not going to turn AQ into a bluff by trying to rep an inside straight or some weird-a$$ 2P on the turn. He'll die before he folds AK here.

MAYBE if the turn brings in a BDFD, AND if we have the ace of that suit in our hand, THEN we can float the turn, and PRAY the flush comes in on the river, so we can rep it. But mostly, we just don't need to be here, screwing around with old man river and his obvious AA/AK.

What does a min raise mean at these stakes?

Is this How Not to Post a Hand 101? OP forgot to include positions, effective stacks, potsizes on all streets and suits, and then just disappears.

Depends on the villain but since he previously minraised with aces pre, he's most likely got AQ crushed, even though he only "looks like" an OMC per the OP so we're basically readless but we do know one thing - he minraises strong hands (so far).