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06-04-2012 , 07:11 PM

#17526

SABR42

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,259

not much, but I think you're almost freerolling and you'll stack a worse ace sometimes

06-04-2012 , 07:16 PM

#17527

DeadMoneyWalking

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 32,469

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Time John

Good read...

2nd player deserves to get flipped.

06-04-2012 , 07:17 PM

#17528

masaraksh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,250

Quote:

Originally Posted by SABR42

not much, but I think you're almost freerolling and you'll stack a worse ace sometimes

true, guess i got MUBSy for some reason.

06-04-2012 , 07:21 PM

#17529

1ns71nct

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,415

Quote:

Originally Posted by masaraksh

true, guess i got MUBSy for some reason.

Fake tell, almost scared you

06-04-2012 , 07:25 PM

#17530

1ns71nct

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,415

Anyone want to link me to like the top 5 PAWHM threads?

06-04-2012 , 07:26 PM

#17531

masaraksh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,250

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ns71nct

Fake tell, almost scared you

more like a real tell.... since he has J9o. DUCY?

06-04-2012 , 07:28 PM

#17532

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

3-betting pf > folding > calling

06-04-2012 , 07:30 PM

#17533

dhcg86

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,410

raise more than 3x imo cause straddlers will call here really wide almost regardless of price

06-04-2012 , 07:34 PM

#17534

masaraksh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,250

^ in my hand?

without limpers opening to 60 or 80 is standard at 10/20 and for 20/40 120 is enough... maybe i can make it 140 or 160. btw. we play with 20 chips. i think open size is fine, although i should probably do 140.

06-04-2012 , 07:35 PM

#17535

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

In 2nd hand I don't think calling is terrible but yeah he has so much air in his range I don't even know what he could have here for value.

06-04-2012 , 07:48 PM

#17536

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

The only thing that makes sense is if he over repped his hand on the flop then realized you can only call with worse so he checked the turn

06-04-2012 , 07:53 PM

#17537

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

LLSNL FF Champ '13

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13,003

A friend - a very good friend - has agreed to stake me half of future buyins. the initial discussion was 50/50 split on winnings/losses.

should i take a slightly higher cut to account for expenses and time? should i just take it and run with it because friendship is more important? is it stupid to risk a friendship over this?

06-04-2012 , 07:55 PM

#17538

SeaUlater

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,797

I wouldn't do it with a close friend. Regardless what happens, it will create fracture.

06-04-2012 , 07:57 PM

#17539

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

Yeah staking can be good/bad. Does he play poker?

I wouldn't risk a friendship over it.

I mean if he is a gambling buddy then it isn't too big of a risk but if he doesn't play he might not know what he is getting into. A better staking deal would be one where you play until you win exactly what you want your bankroll to be and he gets some % of it so there is a definitive end.

Or add in buyout agreements. You basically want like a legitimate written out contract with terms where if you want to buyout/end it you can and there is a way to do it.

06-04-2012 , 07:58 PM

#17540

SABR42

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,259

I've never staked anyone or been staked.

If you win you ship away your winnings. If you lose, you feel worse because you lost someone else's money. Seems like lose/lose. If it's a close friend it's even worse. Unless he's super rich and wants to stake you for high stakes or something.

06-04-2012 , 08:04 PM

#17541

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

LLSNL FF Champ '13

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13,003

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11t

yeah, my friend is a big gambler, but wants to stop and still make extra money. i win but have bills. they lose and have bills.

it's not going to be a major stake. we will probably each put in $500 to start a $1000 bankroll for $1/$2 and see where it takes us. i know that's not a huge roll or enough to play $1/$2, but this person doesn't have a lot of money to risk.

they know the risk, though.

06-04-2012 , 08:05 PM

#17542

BigSkip

The Situation

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 20,065

*sigh* Deep game, donkeys live, I get AA and run into a set on the second hand. If I limp-raise against the button straddler I win a huge pot instead of losing a middling one, but no results oriented silliness tonight! Got a chunk of it back against the table fish with KK a couple of hands later.

06-04-2012 , 08:10 PM

#17543

SeaUlater

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,797

Why not just borrow the money from him?

If you're confident at your game, it's easy and straight forward.

06-04-2012 , 08:15 PM

#17544

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

LLSNL FF Champ '13

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13,003

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaUlater

Why not just borrow the money from him?

If you're confident at your game, it's easy and straight forward.

because the stake is more for them than me ... they want to make money off me, which is fine, because it reduces my risk.

06-04-2012 , 08:16 PM

#17545

SeaUlater

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,797

Unless you can double your WR at this higher stake game than your own stake, I don't see how it would be worth it.

06-04-2012 , 08:19 PM

#17546

SeaUlater

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,797

There is this huge PLO game that I could theoretically crush, but the problem is that the game runs only few times a week and I can't see myself playing anything smaller once I am comfortable with the big game.

Think about that if you want to play a much higher stake.

06-04-2012 , 08:38 PM

#17547

dhcg86

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,410

ran outta gas, etc etc , should see my first hand in 15m. hopefully florida is as soft as they say!

06-04-2012 , 08:40 PM

#17548

dhcg86

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,410

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaUlater

learning to think in terms of buyins and bb's will help fix that problem

06-04-2012 , 08:47 PM

#17549

GiveMeMVP

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhcg86

lran outta gas, etc etc , should see my first hand in 15m. hopefully florida is as soft as they say!

around where do you play normally? Just curious, I live about 4 or 5 hours from Florida.

06-04-2012 , 08:51 PM

#17550

SeaUlater

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,797

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhcg86

learning to think in terms of buyins and bb's will help fix that problem

Bah. You have no idea what you're talking about, and yet you continue to believe that you do.

When one game has standard deviation that's 10x or more than the other, it doesn't matter what the BI or bb is.

Yes, we would all like to pretend that we care about .25/.50 home game when our regular game is 5/10 or higher, but we simply don't.

Last edited by SeaUlater; 06-04-2012 at 08:56 PM.

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