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01-31-2011 , 07:32 PM
Ok I came up with a style of play. PassiveTAG, yeah I think that sums it up.
01-31-2011 , 07:34 PM
Make more aggressive calls.
01-31-2011 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Make more aggressive calls.
loose-nitster agro-folding recovering maniac.

Last edited by stampler; 01-31-2011 at 07:47 PM.
01-31-2011 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rizasutton
I'm failing to miss what is trying to be reveiled.
That's a hell of a freudian slip there, sir.
01-31-2011 , 07:45 PM
I'm super nitty oop, Tag in position, limp only on the button or small blind. Pretty much sums up my style of play.
01-31-2011 , 07:50 PM
You still on your consecutive-winning-sessions streak?
01-31-2011 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
TAG is dominant here imo.
I'm going to disagree with this. Most of this forum is tight, not aggressive pf. If you take the AF of the hands on the first page, it is less than 3. That's not aggressive, especially since at least 4 of the hands involve AA or KK. Almost no villains are ever truly LAG pf either in LLSNL.

Given that, the forum is tighter and more aggressive than the average LLSNL player. However, a common weakness is that forum members don't raise as much and call more often than they should.
01-31-2011 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Ok I came up with a style of play. PassiveTAG, yeah I think that sums it up.
Personally, i consider my play passive aggressive. How does one play passive aggressive , you ask

Spoiler:

Oh, you know how.
01-31-2011 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
TAG is dominant here imo.

Please make "smart loose passive aggressive" your location.
i smell a custom undertitle.
01-31-2011 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
If you take the AF of the hands on the first page, it is less than 3.
That's only because I haven't posted any hands this week

HUD Stats for most of this forum would be something like

VPiP:20 PFR:4 3bet:1 AF:0.5

How far off am I?
01-31-2011 , 08:50 PM
Looks like Loose passive to me. Or am I blind?
01-31-2011 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
You still on your consecutive-winning-sessions streak?
No, midnight session did not go so well last night. KQs vs A5s flush over flush. 2nd buyin AA all in on flop vs 65s on a monotone flop. Guy minraises me I shove with a pair of aces and a flush draw. Guy has an open ended straight draw with a 6 high flush draw as well. He hit on the turn easy game for him.
01-31-2011 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Looks like Loose passive to me. Or am I blind?
Not blind.

At standard 100bb LLNL I'm probably 20/10/2.5 1%3bet because I play too many hands. I'm not sure if I 3bet enough.
01-31-2011 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Not blind.

At standard 100bb LLNL I'm probably 20/10/2.5 1%3bet because I play too many hands. I'm not sure if I 3bet enough.
Seems like you limp a lot. I don't 3bet that much either. Everyone always limp calls with Ax, Kx and pp.

I run something super nitty lol. 12/8/2
01-31-2011 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Seems like you limp a lot.
I limp too much, yeah, but the VPIP/PFR difference is probably mostly calling raises IP. There's a bunch of meh hands like SCs that go up in value in the bloated multi-way pots you often see.
01-31-2011 , 09:18 PM
DOES A STRADDLE COUNT AS A PFR???!?!?
01-31-2011 , 09:20 PM
Only if you raise it when the action gets to you.

Last edited by that_pope; 01-31-2011 at 09:21 PM. Reason: IMO
01-31-2011 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Seems like you limp a lot. I don't 3bet that much either. Everyone always limp calls with Ax, Kx and pp.

I run something super nitty lol. 12/8/2
The reason for a lot of the limping is that you have a hand that has little or no value in a raised pot, but does have a lot of implied value in a limped pot.

An example is limping after a couple of limpers in EP/MP with A6. This hand has all kinds of RIO if played for TP in a raised pot, but has great implied odds versus as someone playing 78 because so many recreational LLSNL players will over play their non nut flushes.

So as long as the LLSNL games continue to play like "whats a kicker" or "its not a tie, I have a flush too" or "how could you call that bet with a OESFD?!?!?", it will remain profitable to limp implied odds type hands.
01-31-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
I limp too much, yeah, but the VPIP/PFR difference is probably mostly calling raises IP. There's a bunch of meh hands like SCs that go up in value in the bloated multi-way pots you often see.
Your right, I need to start cold calling more on the button as well. But I'm so into odds. If I don't get a raiser and at least 2 callers. Cold calling is pointless to me. I think I'm going to start coldcalling with 76s+ and 76o+. But it seems like I never get those hands on the button.
01-31-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Percula
The reason for a lot of the limping is that you have a hand that has little or no value in a raised pot, but does have a lot of implied value in a limped pot.

An example is limping after a couple of limpers in EP/MP with A6. This hand has all kinds of RIO if played for TP in a raised pot, but has great implied odds versus as someone playing 78 because so many recreational LLSNL players will over play their non nut flushes.

So as long as the LLSNL games continue to play like "whats a kicker" or "its not a tie, I have a flush too" or "how could you call that bet with a OESFD?!?!?", it will remain profitable to limp implied odds type hands.
Your argument is on point. In limp pots I want position. My whole thinking is this. If I'm in a limp pot, I still want to be able to steal the pot. After knowone shows interest. So position is everything to me. I like options, such as when I raise I don't have to hit to win. When I limp if I don't hit I can still win.
01-31-2011 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Looks like Loose passive to me. Or am I blind?
20-4 is more like tight passive
01-31-2011 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
That's a hell of a freudian slip there, sir.
Ha you got me!
02-01-2011 , 01:29 AM
started a thread 'bruffing' today, and Kurt closed it as the first reply.

just wondering; Is this a forum record 4 the shortest thread ever??; OP was just a few short lines, anyways.

I've already thanked K by PM for diverting a certain disaster, so no need to again,
but is'nt it sad?
the thread was intended 4 calidonks to tell us about the sick bruffs he pulls, and he was shut out!

help us out, CDonks!

throw us a friggin bone, here!
02-01-2011 , 01:39 AM
I play straight ABC poker man. My bluffs are just normal aggression. Even though it might be 3barrells of air. Its still bluffing right? Nothing fancy, I don't have it in me. To c/c 2 streets and bomb the river. I'm not that good yet.
02-01-2011 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
I play straight ABC poker man. My bluffs are just normal aggression. Even though it might be 3barrells of air. Its still bluffing right? Nothing fancy, I don't have it in me. To c/c 2 streets and bomb the river. I'm not that good yet.
specific hand histories.

      
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