There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Funny. I suppose I'm a little cheap but I do this when I travel for work. I take the extras from decent/nice hotels (i.e. stuff nicer than most harrahs). Just bring it home with your deodorant, shaving cream, etc. that you always take with you. I use it for when I do personal travel, especially when I have to stay with family or something like that where they don't really provide toiletries.

It's a lot easier than having to run to Walgreens every time I'm going on a trip to my brother's or for the annual trip to the beach.

I do the same thing with the sample toothpaste and floss from the dentist.

I stayed at the Peabody in Orlando and they have these little ducky soaps...

I ended up with about 20 of them.

Lol, its funny that Jack,seeUlater and fun101 is mia, after someone with sense actually realize's what I'm saying.

Flame pokah not! You guys are college grads and can't understand someone who dropped out of college.

"He isn't on 2p2 all day to rebuttal? HE IS SCURRED, I IS WINNER THE JIMMIES HAVE BEEN LAID TO REST"

Dude... you are clearly insane. You guys are college grads and can't understand someone who dropped out of college... lol wut? if you write something that nobody understands, who do you think needs to take responsibility to fix that up, the writer or the reader? now if you think you're so much smarter than all of us, by all means keep that opinion and keep writing in hieroglyphics, but don't expect any positive feedback. but the way i see it, you could write anything you want using your gypsie language, and then when somebody interprets it in a way you like, you'll just claim that's what you meant... sounds FOS to me

Lol,Well they were here. They seen Jmurder's post and was like **** we are wrong.

PB. 2 things.

1) I have other things to do other than troll the chat thread.
2) I decided I was done with the whole "thin value" discussion when it became fairly obvious that you were just going to claim "lol you guys didn't realize what I was saying" when that was fairly clearly not what you were saying.

If you actually were saying what Jmurder is saying you were, then you should probably figure out how to communicate a little more effectively. Because that didn't seem to be what you were saying, at all.

"**** we are wrong." so you refer to yourself as 2 people? sounds kinda crazy to me man, but at least you're admitting that you are wrong.

hint: i can selectively decide which parts of a statement to quote and respond to while ignoring the rest too, and make something out of it that it isn't.

When you make claims like this I have a problem with. Stating that if most people do this they could have a bigger winrate.

Like Jmurder said. "Thin value is too complex for LLSNL".

You can't argue against that, especially sice you claim "LLSNL is 100% about thin value betting".

ldo, you can't make statements like that. Especially since I have not heard you say you are a pro. I'm a llsnl pro so I should know.

Only a rec player would say something like that. Or someone that misapplied what thin value actually is.

By far the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say... So if you claim to be something, all of a sudden you have authority? lol.

But as you said, you're a college drop out and we're all college grads, so in terms of knowing how to speak, we should know, right?

I literally have no idea what that post means. So I don't know how to respond. The concept of thin value can't be "too complex" for a game, only too complex for the player trying to apply it.

If you are going to say "hey that guy on the internet said I should get thin value so I guess I will bet bottom pair on the river for thin value I am a professional" then you are maybe better off not trying to v-bet thinner. The only thing "thin value" means is expanding our value betting range past the very strong hands in our range based on how wide our opponents call and the risk of them bluffing us.

Since, as you concede, LLSNL players call too wide and rarely bluff, LLSNL games are the best place in the world to bet wider for value than we normally do. You can call that whatever the hell you want to. If you don't want to call it thin value, fine (though I'm not sure what one would mean by thin value then) but betting as wide as we can such that they still call with a range we are better than 50% against is always something we should try to do. And given how nitty people are at value-betting at LLSNL from what I've seen 95% of players would increase their win-rate by widening their v-betting range.

If you want to use that logic, fine. You play 2/5. I play 5/10 after crushing 2/5 over a long period (3 years). I should know.

Yes, I study more then anyone here. I actually have over 3500 hours under my belt in the last 3 years in live poker. I have survived threw this recession from poker without a job and just a pension check that I have doubled threw poker.

I make over 3600 a month from a game that most of you can not beat(60bb cap).

I built most of my roll at a 2/5 300max game back when that was the biggest game at turning stone.

I don't know your financial situation. But if I still had my job making 26$/hour I would never play low stakes. Good thing I learned poker a few months before getting fired.

I'm a winner at 5/10 its not hard. Its like lowstakes with more money on the table. I just can't handle the variance with my life roll.

+1...but the fact that you had to type that out for an active member of this board is just disturbing.

Whatever I shouldnt have even said that it distracted from the actual conversation. But saying "im a pro so I'm right" is laughable was the only point.

Pokah, I will destroy your game to say the least, total annihilation.

If we break it down you should be able to understand. As 2+2'ers our ranges will be way tighter then our opponents. So betting for value is standard. Nothing thin about betting the ranges we play.

Now say we play lag(I wouldn't recommend in a low stakes game) then your range is so wide you will be betting for thin value with hands like A9 on an Ace high board, Or say a Queen high flush. That's thin value betting to me.

Most here play tight unless your sabr.

"A 60 year old teacher taught the same lesson for over 35 years. The other teacher, a 30 year old with only 5 years experience taught something new every lesson. The older teacher said to the younger one 'hey, you're teaching it wrong! I've got 35 years experience teaching, I would know.' The younger teacher looked at him, smiled and said 'I think you have 1 year of bad experience repeated 35 times.'"

It means nothing what you say. We have no proof that you are as much of a winner as you always claim to be, but again, this would only prove that you have found a way to win at LLS poker that you have no way of communicating to the rest of the world because you didn't spend any time learning how to write. I don't think anyone denies that you spend more time on 2p2 than anyone here, but that doesn't mean you're "studying" or gaining anything worth-while. Since nobody ever agrees with you, you're either a bad poster, or you're so many light years ahead of all of us that Tom Dwan himself would be afraid to play against you. Which one do you think it is?

I play a very different style than most players here. If you look at my threads, you'll probably notice that I base a lot of my game on feel and live reads and that I'm about 10x more LAG than the average. I don't think this makes me better than anyone, just different. And acknowledging that I'm different allows me to understand others' thinking to build a better foundation, whether it allows me to consider new approaches or just realize how other people think of poker for when I get in a hand against one of them. But when I'm trying to convey my thinking, I try to do it in a way other people will understand, not just "I am right due to X qualification and therefore you should follow my advice". This is a weak argument and gives no big picture to any of your advice anyway so there is no way to logically heed it.

I don't like most of your posts, and I hardly ever agree with what you have to say, but if you want people to at least consider your view point, you have to drop the holier than thou herp derp incomprehensible approach to your posts. It detracts from the core of the debate and turns it into flinging poo at each other. Give reasons, not qualifications. Maybe we could find some common ground or in the least, propagate some meaningful discussion rather than just pissing contests. This is an honest criticism; just work on the way you lay out your posts so people can understand what you're trying to say and forget all this ad hominem bull****. There are few "stupid" regular posters on this forum, you could learn and help people learn if you dropped the autism.

Why on earth is our range tighter? If anything our range is wider on average...

You're wasting your life if you spent as much time learning poker as you have claimed.

There is no "we" here, you are literally the only person disagreeing with every other person here.

I do find your mancrush on Sabr to be a little cute though.

I agree my biggest problem on the forums is that people don't understand me. I too play a lot on feel with math probabilities included. Which is the reason why I'm light years ahead of the average "lol,live reg". I didn't mean to totally disagree with jack. But when your opponent is basically pot committed and he doesn't know. You don't have to bet for thin value because your going to get looked up regardless due to stack size's.

jju

Lol, the fact you write at a third grade level is an insult towards you, not them. What you said was asinine, the fact you're know gloating after someone gave you a life raft to make it seem like you're not an idiot is just pathetic.