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02-29-2012 , 03:33 AM
Keep your raise size's manageable. Don't be scared of the limpers, your just taking the lead.

First hand was a 3bet I was not referring to that hand.

Second hand 35 screams I have JJ/1010 or a weaker hand in your case 43.
02-29-2012 , 03:43 AM
Made the biggest hero-call of my life probably. Called a river overbet with counterfeited bottom two pair. Draws missed, and I was like, "blockers yo!"

I was wrong. That's a $900 I won't get back.

At least I have heart though.
02-29-2012 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
Keep your raise size's manageable. Don't be scared of the limpers, your just taking the lead.

First hand was a 3bet I was not referring to that hand.

Second hand 35 screams I have JJ/1010 or a weaker hand in your case 43.
Say what? I raise to 35 because there were 3 limpers on the straddle so there was already $23 in the pot. Obv I'm looking to take it down pre or get it heads up.(are you saying raise more or raise less?) If I wasn't I wouldn't raise and would just limp behind.
If I raise less all that happens is everyone calls(happens anyway lol; most of the time it thins the field to HU or 3way) and I'm playing IP with 45s in a bloated MW pot. Sucks having to cbet large into that many players unless we flop gin.
02-29-2012 , 03:50 AM
Standard straddle raise, but obviously people put you on tilt and called you super light.

What a stupid call with K2 though, the guy must have thought he was a genius?

Although I should say that the straddle raise was horrible given your image at the time.
02-29-2012 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaUlater
Standard straddle raise, but obviously people put you on tilt and called you super light.

What a stupid call with K2 though, the guy must have thought he was a genius?

Although I should say that the straddle raise was horrible given your image at the time.
Ah, when I said next hand, I didn't mean literally the next hand.
I just meant next hand where I got crushed lol. They were about 1.5 hours apart.
02-29-2012 , 03:58 AM
Oh that makes more sense. Lol.
02-29-2012 , 04:08 AM
4d5d hand is terrible preflop. 4d5d just doesnt have the equity and a lot of the times if you do get stacks in it will be with the worst of it unless you completely cooler the **** out of someone, since its far more likely you get overflushed.

The other hand you didnt put any money in with 97% equity, you got it in on the flop, with roughly ~65% equity. Its similar to me getting it in preflop with QQ against AA, spiking a queen on the flop and losing to an ace on the river.

Yeah sure, its a beat but when you open your game up, people ARE going to play back at you, and this kind of stuff will happen.
02-29-2012 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ashley12
4d5d hand is terrible preflop. 4d5d just doesnt have the equity and a lot of the times if you do get stacks in it will be with the worst of it unless you completely cooler the **** out of someone, since its far more likely you get overflushed.

The other hand you didnt put any money in with 97% equity, you got it in on the flop, with roughly ~65% equity. Its similar to me getting it in preflop with QQ against AA, spiking a queen on the flop and losing to an ace on the river.

Yeah sure, its a beat but when you open your game up, people ARE going to play back at you, and this kind of stuff will happen.
Uhh what? I'm raising 45s OTB after 3 limpers and a straddle... Obv I'm not looking to get stacks in otf unless I hit gin. I'm attacking limpers, using position, looking to thin field, and take the pot down OTF with a c-bet after thinning field.

Never did I say I got all the money in with 97% equity. I said I lost when I had 97% equity ott. (P.S. OTF I had closer to 70% equity).

All I was doing was blowin off some steam from bad beats in the chat thread. Sheesh.
02-29-2012 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Made the biggest hero-call of my life probably. Called a river overbet with counterfeited bottom two pair. Draws missed, and I was like, "blockers yo!"

I was wrong. That's a $900 I won't get back.

At least I have heart though.
I would have told you you have heart for $500. You overpaid, imo.
02-29-2012 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LolPony
Uhh what? I'm raising 45s OTB after 3 limpers and a straddle... Obv I'm not looking to get stacks in otf unless I hit gin. I'm attacking limpers, using position, looking to thin field, and take the pot down OTF with a c-bet after thinning field.

Never did I say I got all the money in with 97% equity. I said I lost when I had 97% equity ott. (P.S. OTF I had closer to 70% equity).

All I was doing was blowin off some steam from bad beats in the chat thread. Sheesh.
Given hand 1, where someone refuses to fold 7s on a board like the one you got, you are grossly overestimating your fold equity by thinking you have any. If the rest of the table is anything like him, you arent going to take the pot down either preflop or on the flop.

You didnt mention stack sizes, but given its 1/2 with a straddle lets assume 300. When called in a few spots for 35 your SPR will be below 3, which doesnt bode well for your hand.

Anyway, you post hands on a forum, people are going to look at them and offer feedback.
02-29-2012 , 04:39 AM
Anyway, back to the random nature of the thread.

Since everyone is posting about their basketball teams and such, I am going to post about my indoor cricket team.

Most of you Americans wouldnt know what actual cricket is, let alone its indoor equivelent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_cricket

Basically two teams of 8 hit around a ball for an hour and then drink beer.

Aim of the game is to hit the ball into the nets on each side of the batting strip. Each net is worth X amount of points/runs, with the back net behind the bowler/pitcher being worth the most runs. Points are also scored by running between the bases/creases.

Each team has 4 pairs that bat together. They bat for 4 overs each, and each "over" consists of 6 deliveries by the same person. After 4 overs, that pair of batsmen is replaced by another, and so on for 16 overs total.

The teams then swap jobs from batting to fielding and do the same thing

My team are a bunch of hackers, but hey, we are having fun and sinking beers so whats the harm.

So far our record is 2 wins and 3 losses, with a win last week. I batted poorly and made only 8 runs when my average previous to that had been around 20. As such, Im looking to improve this week.
02-29-2012 , 04:39 AM
Lol. So because one player spazzed out with an underpair we need to nit up and assume the table is playing the same way as him? (obv if I think I have 0 FE then I'm not going to be raising 45s OTB.) I expect to end up heads up or 3 way >60% of the time.
The guy that called with K2s is a reg that is usually pretty solid. Guess just something about me that makes people wanna spazz/hero me.
02-29-2012 , 04:48 AM
Lol I play in a rec futsal league. We grab beers after the games to celebrate our victories. Coincidentally we also grab beers after the games to soothe the pain after losses! new season just started and we're 2-3 also haha.
02-29-2012 , 06:23 AM
People are worse than I thought on here if they are critiquing LolPony's standard (to a good player) play on both hands. I'd say it's unbelievable but nothing surprises me on this forum. WP, man and tough beats there.
02-29-2012 , 07:17 AM
I think that raising 45s in that spot is pretty -ev, but every other part of both hands is super standard and really gross beats.

LOL at getting called by both those hands.
02-29-2012 , 09:25 AM
raising 45s is dependent on table dynamics so who cares, hes on the button too
02-29-2012 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LolPony
3 limps to me I raise to 35 everyone calls.
I guess this could just be the one time that everyone calls, but I'm guessing the table dynamics just weren't there. Given what villain showed up with, I'm about 100% sure.

The rest of the other two hands are fine, but raising here is a leak.
02-29-2012 , 10:40 AM
APD: How old were you when you got married?
02-29-2012 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
APD: How old were you when you got married?
22 - I will be 31 this year.

????
02-29-2012 , 10:52 AM
You mentioned your wife and your age several times in the last few pages, I was curious.
02-29-2012 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ashley12
Anyway, back to the random nature of the thread.

Since everyone is posting about their basketball teams and such, I am going to post about my indoor cricket team.

Most of you Americans wouldnt know what actual cricket is, let alone its indoor equivelent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_cricket

Basically two teams of 8 hit around a ball for an hour and then drink beer.

Aim of the game is to hit the ball into the nets on each side of the batting strip. Each net is worth X amount of points/runs, with the back net behind the bowler/pitcher being worth the most runs. Points are also scored by running between the bases/creases.

Each team has 4 pairs that bat together. They bat for 4 overs each, and each "over" consists of 6 deliveries by the same person. After 4 overs, that pair of batsmen is replaced by another, and so on for 16 overs total.

The teams then swap jobs from batting to fielding and do the same thing

My team are a bunch of hackers, but hey, we are having fun and sinking beers so whats the harm.

So far our record is 2 wins and 3 losses, with a win last week. I batted poorly and made only 8 runs when my average previous to that had been around 20. As such, Im looking to improve this week.
Just came back from the game.

We batted first. Our first three pairs all made slightly under par scores leaving us on 68 going into the last pair, me and my partner Damo. Thankfully the person batting with me was on fire, making a solid 37 and me 18 for a final skin of 55 and a total score of 123.

In the field I bowled the first over of the day, and took 2 wickets (each wicket, or out, is worth negative 5 runs for the batting team) ending up with 2 wickets for 2 runs, which works out to negative 8 runs.

We fielded really well and with a few others chipping in, had the match sown up going into my last over, which was the last over of the match. I still managed to take another 2 wickets including one delivery which hit the wickets (the 3 posts that make up the target area for bowlers) and hit our wicketkeeper/catcher in the face, which caused bleeding.

I realise this is cool story bro, but we won by around 50 runs (a solid victory)
02-29-2012 , 10:55 AM
Cool story bro
02-29-2012 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
You mentioned your wife and your age several times in the last few pages, I was curious.
Gotcha. Been married forever... going off of today's standards.
02-29-2012 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ashley12
Just came back from the game.

We batted first. Our first three pairs all made slightly under par scores leaving us on 68 going into the last pair, me and my partner Damo. Thankfully the person batting with me was on fire, making a solid 37 and me 18 for a final skin of 55 and a total score of 123.

In the field I bowled the first over of the day, and took 2 wickets (each wicket, or out, is worth negative 5 runs for the batting team) ending up with 2 wickets for 2 runs, which works out to negative 8 runs.

We fielded really well and with a few others chipping in, had the match sown up going into my last over, which was the last over of the match. I still managed to take another 2 wickets including one delivery which hit the wickets (the 3 posts that make up the target area for bowlers) and hit our wicketkeeper/catcher in the face, which caused bleeding.

I realise this is cool story bro, but we won by around 50 runs (a solid victory)
Sounds like my softball team... Win drink beer, lose drink beer. Thats why its called beer league.
02-29-2012 , 11:29 AM
I just stay home and drink beer...alone. In the dark. In a rocking chair. With a beer fridge next to me. Full of beer. That I drink.

      
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