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I might float once out of few times, but it's usually a fold for me as well.

A lot has to do with how people respond to his donk bet and how he responds to those responses.

I don't expect most players to remember history between themselves and individual players, unless of course there's something memorable about the hand itself, so you should evaluate these situations by how people usually respond to his donk bets.

12-24-2012 , 10:13 PM

#50028

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

I folded but I think its a mistake. I had 7 outs to a winning hand. I had 28% and only needed 20%.

lol. he raised and you assume you had 7 outs?

12-24-2012 , 10:16 PM

#50029

SeaUlater

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb

lol. he raised and you assume you had 7 outs?

In my regular game with similar structure, we fight pretty hard for these small and seemingly meaningless pots.

That's why I like bigger games of same limit, because I am so used to fighting for these pots and most of the opponents of these bigger games are just so willing to "look for better spots."

12-24-2012 , 10:17 PM

#50030

iLikeCaliDonks

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He didn't raise he donk betted.

12-24-2012 , 10:19 PM

#50031

RobFarha

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you realize that that equity is contingent on you seeing all 5 cards right?

turn bricks, he bets 2/3 pot OTT, now what?

12-24-2012 , 10:20 PM

#50032

iLikeCaliDonks

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I might not had a 7 outs. But I'm not sure if he donks KJ there or not. His donks are usually tp. I didn't have any direct history. Since he plays so tight and straight forward. I never tango with him.

12-24-2012 , 10:21 PM

#50033

SeaUlater

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobFarha

turn bricks, he bets 2/3 pot OTT, now what?

That's a clear fold then, but without knowing much history of this player, I am guessing he will check a lot more often on turn than bet.

12-24-2012 , 10:21 PM

#50034

SeaUlater

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

Pay attention to how others play with him. You don't need to play him yourself to gain such information.

12-24-2012 , 10:22 PM

#50035

iLikeCaliDonks

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He looks like the father of "Honey I shrunk the kids". Dude also played in the revenge of the nerds movie that he looks like.

12-24-2012 , 10:23 PM

#50036

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

He didn't raise he donk betted.

ok, he called a $25 raise. fold. you hit two pair and could be behind his AT, he could have AJ and not be one of his raising hands. ETC.

12-24-2012 , 10:24 PM

#50037

iLikeCaliDonks

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People usually call. I always fold to his donk bets. He always shows up with good tp's. I took his bet as tp.

12-24-2012 , 10:27 PM

#50038

SeaUlater

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How does he play turn and how does he react to raise on flop?

You should practice solving these hands with HHs, not just equity, especially against a regular.

12-24-2012 , 10:28 PM

#50039

11t

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

I folded but I think its a mistake. I had 7 outs to a winning hand. I had 28% and only needed 20%.

well the big thing is that you might be getting free rolled or drawing nearly dead. Your hand is all sorts of RIO.

12-24-2012 , 10:32 PM

#50040

iLikeCaliDonks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaUlater

How does he play turn and how does he react to raise on flop?

You should practice solving these hands with HHs, not just equity.

He doesn't slow down ott. I have seen him donk 2 pair on a monotone board and bet turn and river.

Have seen him stack off on QJ7 board with AA when raised.

As for flop raises on his donk bets. Have not seen anyone try him yet.

12-24-2012 , 10:35 PM

#50041

SeaUlater

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Then it's a clear fold on the flop.

12-24-2012 , 10:37 PM

#50042

iLikeCaliDonks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaUlater

Then it's a clear fold on the flop.

Thanks.

12-24-2012 , 10:39 PM

#50043

SeaUlater

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He's the type that you take to value town by having strong made hands or less obvious draws, not hands like the one in discussion.

12-24-2012 , 11:40 PM

#50044

venice10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DK Barrel

My buddy keeps pestering me to go to Vegas and play a wsop event with him

I told him I'd like to wait until I'm good enough to at least have a shot at cashing.

Someday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

Anybody is good enough. Do you see the people who run hot in tournaments and don't know how to really play poker?

Anyone looking to actually play in a WSOP event would be well advised to read KurtSF's COTW on final tabling one. It is also a great read in and of itself. Like any form of poker, you have to make adjustments to your play. A working knowledge of ICM and a strong sense of FE are keys that cash players rarely deal with at LLSNL.

Beyond that, a Merry Christmas to all.

12-24-2012 , 11:58 PM

#50045

dhcg86

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Honestly I think I can beat this 1/3 game for 80/hr over a decent sample

Its that soft

Only softer place is fl

For ex there are 4 full tables right now with a list

12-25-2012 , 12:08 AM

#50046

squid face

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dhcg86

Honestly I think I can beat this 1/3 game for 80/hr over a decent sample

Its that soft

Only softer place is fl

For ex there are 4 full tables right now with a list

I'll take the under on this 1 sir

12-25-2012 , 12:17 AM

#50047

iLikeCaliDonks

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Between 25-35/hr is your cap. 80/hr lol good luck with that goal.

12-25-2012 , 12:35 AM

#50048

dhcg86

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Ill give ya 3:1 that I can beat that ILCD. Sol can escrow or SABR

Just got all in vs two players

I cover

One has Qs9c (145)
One has AcKs (365)
I have AQ no club

KcJcTs

AK bets 30 I raise 65(bad sizing) Q9 shoves AK calls I shove AK calls

Tell me this game isnt soft son!