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09-25-2012 , 08:13 PM

#33151

11t

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rumor

Thanks. I am praying they spread 2/5. It is a little too early for the farmers to have their harvest money yet though.

lol harvest money? no harvest this year bro

also farmers nowadays use futures market to lock in profits early so there is no "harvest" money

09-25-2012 , 08:14 PM

#33152

madlondoner

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Yeah I'd fold vs most opponents and especially vs a 3bet which reopresents such a big % of your stack

09-25-2012 , 08:22 PM

#33153

Sol Reader

The Situation

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Why don't people fold AQ vs me too

Instead I have guys 3-Bet/flatting 28s "because I made it so small". He made it 18 I made is 46.

09-25-2012 , 08:27 PM

#33154

Garick

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Let me fix that for you...

100NL

Effective stack Size ~120

Straddle UTG for $2.25
Few limps to Garick in the CO who raises to $10 with (what he claims was)AQo
APD OTB 3bets to $32 (or maybe $34)
Folds to Garick who?

09-25-2012 , 08:29 PM

#33155

canoodles

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wtf snap shove ship teh nicks ainec

09-25-2012 , 08:29 PM

#33156

stampler

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tank folds in order to tease APD who would just hate a snap-fold, which Garick already has made mentally.

09-25-2012 , 08:33 PM

#33157

BigSkip

The Situation

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Garick

Snap ships. APD is a 2+2 mod so we know he runs bad. Even if he has you beat you will suck out.

09-25-2012 , 08:33 PM

#33158

Garick

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSkip

Snap ships. APD is a 2+2 mod so we know he runs bad. Even if he has you beat you will suck out.

LOL!!! WP.

09-25-2012 , 08:45 PM

#33159

Sol Reader

The Situation

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Meh I'm usually really good about this but I got in stacks 56 vs A7 on A56 it came T T which is fine but when I mucked my cards without showing he kept saying how he knew he was ahead and I had KK QQ. The ****, and kept asking me to show etc. lucky I shot it into the muck.

I shouldnt be annoyed really. 1 into the tilt jar I guess.

09-25-2012 , 08:51 PM

#33160

AcePlayerDeluxe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Garick

Oh, thanks. I think there was another hand where I 3bet you to $22 maybe. IDK, I felt like a 3bet monkey last night. That's the most I ever 3balled in my life.

Oh now its what He claims? Dont ever ask me what I had again. You're cut off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSkip

Snap ships. APD is a 2+2 mod so we know he runs bad. Even if he has you beat you will suck out.

Lol, but no. Last night was the night you didn't want none of this. I was running pretty well and my bruffs were working (I picked some good spots of course).

09-25-2012 , 08:58 PM

#33161

Garick

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Quote:

and my bruffs were working

That's actually the only reason I tanked at all. You had a winning image, and while one or two of the droolers would l/c for $10, they were all folding to your re-raise 100%, and I knew that you knew it. Plus I was the only player on the table with a r/f range. It was a perfect spot to make a move, so I seriously considered shoving as a re-steal.

09-25-2012 , 09:02 PM

#33162

stampler

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with this info ^^^, then, ya, ship it, APD. if youve been 3 betting a ton, then his calling off range will be lighter maybe?
of course, you will be running into a razor a fair amount of the time.

i sound like a results oriented monday morning quarterback, i'm sure...

...what we really need is some real monday night refs to actually show up for the game.

09-25-2012 , 09:05 PM

#33163

madlondoner

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Am not convinced the benefits outweigh the downsides when we get snapped.

09-25-2012 , 09:08 PM

#33164

Sol Reader

The Situation

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If you get called write it off as cooler. Ez.

09-25-2012 , 09:14 PM

#33165

Garick

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So if I shove what I later claimed was AQ, what should APD do with what he also later claimed was AQ?

09-25-2012 , 09:19 PM

#33166

AcePlayerDeluxe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Garick

So if I shove what I later claimed was AQ, what should APD do with what he also later claimed was AQ?

09-25-2012 , 09:20 PM

#33167

11t

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Garick

So if I shove what I later claimed was AQ, what should APD do with what he also later claimed was AQ?

fold, AQ is probably the stone cold bottom of your range

09-25-2012 , 09:22 PM

#33168

madlondoner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Reader

If you get called write it off as cooler. Ez.

pmsl

09-25-2012 , 09:24 PM

#33169

Garick

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Prince-Mont Swim League????

09-25-2012 , 09:26 PM

#33170

stampler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe

I love how you both are still trying to crush each others souls away from the table.

this hand deserves a PAHWM thread.

shoving into better w/ 0 FE is still +EV because of the 'pain vig' you gain when you likely suck out against a buddy.
it's like a promotion, or a jackpot even!!

09-25-2012 , 09:29 PM

#33171

Sol Reader

The Situation

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So this is what running bad feels like.

Spoiler:

09-25-2012 , 09:32 PM

#33172

stampler

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'so you claim'

09-25-2012 , 09:34 PM

#33173

AcePlayerDeluxe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 11t

fold, AQ is probably the stone cold bottom of your range

See Garick... Everyone thinks you're a nit! Hahahaha

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampler

Aint it fun though! This hand doesn't get past prF. Garick folded. Rightfully so though. Neither of our 3bet ranges at this table should have been wide. Pure value.

09-25-2012 , 09:43 PM

#33174

Garick

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Yeah, if I'd shipped there, I was 100% turning my hand into a bluff. Seriously considered it though...
(FTR, I did not have AQ here, but did have a hand I felt fine with a l/caller or two with a good shot at taking it down with a c-bet and some equity to fall back on. Plus I was (trying to) buy the button.) Once 3-bet, if I'd been confident I wasn't dominated if called, I prob woulda shoved, but def expecting to be behind if called. I'll tell real hand if you do...