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you are welcome, that will be $500

Some games never die, such as the 5/10 10/25 game that's supported by millionaires lol.

If anything you keep those games alive by keeping shot takers down, and it being harder to grind up a roll at lower stakes actually helps that. It is/was a bit like that in high stakes games all over the world/online.

Not saying that's healthy obv just an observation.

Like in EPTs the game in terms of toughness goes from 10/20 > 5/5 > 5/10 > 50/100 or something.

Ya it will, unless they are literally passing chips around. No one likes to lose, not even millionaire fish.

ego is still one of my biggest leaks.
I complain, and grumble like a fish when i'm running bad, which is another weird form of ego, being self-centered.
having pride in what you do, and what youve accomplished may be another thing?

not wanting to be wrong is obv a form of ego, but
when you've achieved not even wanting to be right, then that's pride, not ego.
that comes from an old Texas saying. 'I'm too proud to have you tell me i'm right'.

the difference btween ego and pride seems to be in what makes you happy and fulfilled.
ego can never do that, imo, and it usually brings shame along with it, when it dawns on you how your ego has made you behave.

I steam way too much, which invaribly makes you look like an idiot.
I really need to work on this; not complaining,
i've got the 'not explaining' part down.

No you don't understand. Economy of Whale games at high stakes work in a very fundamentally different way fromnormal poker economy.

You are already way ahead of most people.

I got the not complaining to most people down, but I still find the need to have to complain to someone.

I do understand because I am in an area infested by millionaires and the big game(s) still died.

These are self-made, so i guess trust fund millionaires might be different.

it really depends on how addicted they are to gambling and how close to retirement they are

Lots of whales know they are whales and don't care. Literally don't care, and have been donating for like 20 years, and this has always been how it went. It's not something that will stop. If whales hate losing money they wouldn't lose millions/billions at casinos?

not when they get outnumbered by sharks, and they get annihilated, therefore taking all the fun out of it for them. millionaire fish need other each in abundance in order to trade $ back and forth
otherwise, they prolly switch to baccarat, or roulette, lol.

and if youve ever seen a mega-rich fish become a good solid player, it should turn your stomach. I've seen this with one of the richest guys who i ever played with. went from being a stone donk to a not-dangerous player, but a player that you can't get any $ out of. He's richer than God, and can make good folds?? WTF??

the thing is, most rich ppl arent that dumb to be not be able to learn NL.
if youre talking poker strat in front of them, then youre just gambling that they are all hopeless gambling addicts that will never improve, and you might be drawing live, but is it really worth gambling the future of the game on?? when you can easily talk strat away from the table, or here.


not criticising you, Sol, just trying to have a discussion, and reflect on what i've seen. I appreciate your contributions to the board.

also, i recall you saying that you can size a player up according to the level of thier poker table-talk??
this may be true, but it leaves you a blind spot, because the best players never ever ever talk strat at the table.
sometimes i don't mind it, because i can spot leaks in their game and thinking from their loose lips, and exploit it later, but once i know, 'c'mon, shut the F up.'

Self made rich people aren't stupid, that's why they're rich.

It's hard to believe such person would knowingly lose thousands day after day.

Edit: what stampler said.

yeah that is why most whales play in big poker games with other whales and they don't invite *******s to come play with them

it is really a function of income though, like if somebody is rich as in they have an extremely high income they likely don't care about dropping money but if it starts to eat into their wealth then that is a completely different ball game.

there are a lot of whales in the game I play in and I've seen several drop down to the lowest stake offered once they retire.

No but I actually agree with you;, but using that logic... tougher lower stakes games are actually good for higher stakes regs because fewer regs will be bankrolled to move up especially considering how aggro and deep they play.

Also seriously guys? Obviously no one talks strat in front of whales? Like I know nobody is saying it but you guys are inferring/implying things I say or think that I never did. It's getting a bit annoying. 90% of the things you say are bad are things I would never do and wholly agree with and have in fact said as much before.

We sort of moved on from that topic...

fwiw I think this is more of a general discussion on stuff we see at the table all the time

I've actually told a few regs to stfu at the table and I don't think they like me very much for calling them out for berating bad players

You didn't follow the teaching of Carnegie.

no I did not, I have anger management problems but I do my best to avoid situations like that and just trying counts for a lot

Yeah of course.

Basically, I think to a great extent, what makes a successful high stakes/nosebleed player is their ability to punish weaker regs and monopolize those whales.

Just curious - has anyone in this forum ever played in Iowa? I have to go to Des Moines this week for work. It looks like Prairie Meadows is my best bet?

yeah they spread 2/5 iirc

I played with a bunch of the "regs" that were at a local tourney even and they seemed very soft

+1


... maybe I should have bought an RV and glassware.

you don't have my cold blooded instincts, you get that book yet masa?

I was replying to stampler's post...

WORST INTERNET EVER.