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12-10-2009 , 05:43 PM
i think this is crazy due to ipoker having so many currencies now and limits that cappping to 4 hu tables a time is crazy! the way to sort it out is capping the amount of tables per limit instead, to say 2 or 3 per limit so people can stil sit across 5 limits etc.
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12-10-2009 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
I don't think it actually is. I think on MMM the clock counts down way too quick, feels like only 20 seconds or so.
Yes, but the clock appears after 10 seconds, totalling 30. Just time out preflop with junk and the windows clock opened next time you play if you don't believe me
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12-10-2009 , 07:23 PM
Been almost 4 days for since my withdrawl to neteller. Anything wrong with vc? My acc is fine, not locked or anything.
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12-10-2009 , 09:13 PM
ffs ipoker, will you please sort your network out, this is unplayable.
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12-10-2009 , 09:20 PM
anyone else think there's something weird about the lagging problems?

i was playing 12 tables there and they started lagging.when i came back,i still had decisions to make at some of them,although most were timed out. a friend of mine was playing at one of my tables and said i had just timed out,but when i came back to the table my hand was still there...on that table i folded,so its possible i was folded already,but on another table where i "should" have timed out i was still able to call and win.

i know that doesn't really make any sense but i wouldn't put it past ipoker to make some monumental error during the update that could lead to stuff like this happening...

anyway,i'd be curious to know if this is happening anyone else.
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12-10-2009 , 09:24 PM
In case some of you don't like people going around the new "4 empty heads up tables per person" rule, here is a standard email you can send your Ipoker client to complain about it.

Dear Sir,

The Ipoker network recently introduced a new rule restricting the number of empty heads up tables a user can sit at to 4, while the number of full heads up tables one can sit at remains limited to 16.

The second part of this rule offers a possibility to compl overcome the limitations of the first part.
If player A sits at 4 empty heads up tables and player B sits at player A's 4 empty heads up tables, player A is allowed to open 4 new empty heads up tables. Once player B quits player A's 4 first tables, player A finds himself with 8 empty heads up tables.
As you can imagine, users have intentionally been abusing this by briefly sitting down without playing at other players' tables to allow them to open more than the 4 empty heads up tables allowed per user.
A perfect example of this is "name of a user you see doing so". At the moment (Server Time), he is sitting at no less than "Number" heads up tables ("Table names").

Thanks in advance for taking this matter into consideration and coming up with a quick solution for it.

Regards,
Your Name

If you are sending this email now, feel free to use the following for the last part:
A perfect example of this is "trraveller". At the moment (Server Time: 2009-12-11 01:15:30), he is sitting at no less than 14 heads up tables (Cloverdale, Konark, De Graff, De Jouwer, Mecci, Haldarn, Struer, Ivelina, Alicai, Ahchernar, Laboh, Banjup, Banan and Punalur, ranging from No Limit $5/$10 to $25/$50).
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12-10-2009 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
ffs ipoker, will you please sort your network out, this is unplayable.
What problems you having? everything was fine for me today, although I have had the same problem at VC for the last two weeks, if I open the cashier while playing, the whole client crashes. I know this yet i still do it once a session
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12-10-2009 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Costals
In case some of you don't like people going around the new "4 empty heads up tables per person" rule, here is a standard email you can send your Ipoker client to complain about it.

Dear Sir,

The Ipoker network recently introduced a new rule restricting the number of empty heads up tables a user can sit at to 4, while the number of full heads up tables one can sit at remains limited to 16.

The second part of this rule offers a possibility to compl overcome the limitations of the first part.
If player A sits at 4 empty heads up tables and player B sits at player A's 4 empty heads up tables, player A is allowed to open 4 new empty heads up tables. Once player B quits player A's 4 first tables, player A finds himself with 8 empty heads up tables.
As you can imagine, users have intentionally been abusing this by briefly sitting down without playing at other players' tables to allow them to open more than the 4 empty heads up tables allowed per user.
A perfect example of this is "name of a user you see doing so". At the moment (Server Time), he is sitting at no less than "Number" heads up tables ("Table names").

Thanks in advance for taking this matter into consideration and coming up with a quick solution for it.

Regards,
Your Name

If you are sending this email now, feel free to use the following for the last part:
A perfect example of this is "trraveller". At the moment (Server Time: 2009-12-11 01:15:30), he is sitting at no less than 14 heads up tables (Cloverdale, Konark, De Graff, De Jouwer, Mecci, Haldarn, Struer, Ivelina, Alicai, Ahchernar, Laboh, Banjup, Banan and Punalur, ranging from No Limit $5/$10 to $25/$50).
Terrible idea.

I dont understand why any hu reg would want to be limited to 4 tables. Most of the people ive talked to who actually play hu on ipoker think its a ******ed concept. The only people who support it are people who barely play hu or at least dont wait on their own tables.

There are now 3 different currencies and about 20 different limits of heads up poker. Out of all these we should sit on 4? How do we choose which.

If you're a 10/20+ hu player you get action very very rarely so you need to have some tables of lower stakes aswell.

What if you play 50/100. You sit at 2 25/50 and 2 50/100 and get action about once every 2 days? It's such a stupid idea.

For the people that agree with this we should actually get a letter sorted to complain about the changes. If enough of us complain maybe we can get it back to normal. After all we are the people actually generating all the hu rake ipoker gets. If they realise that this change will do nothing to increase the rake they make and only annoy a lot of players they might think about it.
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12-10-2009 , 10:34 PM
Just to add:

Im against people who sit at about 10 tables of 1 limit to try increase there chance of getting a fish or finding action. Thats pretty lame. Especially if the lobby is full and they wont give up tables.

However this current idea is a terrible solution. A much better one would be saying 1 table per limit, per currency.

The lobby would be nice and tidy and people could exercise the freedom to actually play different limits.

As it stands now playing 25/50 hu probably isn't financially viable. You have to wait 2 days and then maybe you get action and you cant get lower games to keep up your hourly rate. You would be better off just 4 tabling 2/4 instead.
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12-10-2009 , 10:40 PM
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What problems you having? everything was fine for me today
Lagging. Everything just freezes up for like 20 secs, I get hand timeouts, I get kicked off tables randomly. I know it's not my internet connection because everything else works perfectly, plus others here are having the same problem.
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12-10-2009 , 10:55 PM
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Lagging. Everything just freezes up for like 20 secs, I get hand timeouts, I get kicked off tables randomly. I know it's not my internet connection because everything else works perfectly, plus others here are having the same problem.
I abrubtly got a message "no bla bla gamingserver" and got kicked of all my tables in a split second. My internet was perfectly fine and I could immediately log back in. The whole thing took like 3 seconds. But I lost 3 of my 4 tables, including one where I just hit the flop pretty good in BvB. I easily reconnected before timing out there but it just removed me from the table, gg. This was on betfred. I contacted support and they said they were unaware of any anomalies and the problem must have been on my end...
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12-10-2009 , 11:35 PM
i agree that one hu table per person per limit is the only sensible solution
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12-10-2009 , 11:51 PM
2 tables per limit imo
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12-11-2009 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sh58
2 tables per limit imo
may aswell be 1 though and you can open a second if your playing 1 already.

Doesn't change the % chance of getting action and makes the lobby look less scary for the fish.
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12-11-2009 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamsym1
Terrible idea.

I dont understand why any hu reg would want to be limited to 4 tables. Most of the people ive talked to who actually play hu on ipoker think its a ******ed concept. The only people who support it are people who barely play hu or at least dont wait on their own tables.

There are now 3 different currencies and about 20 different limits of heads up poker. Out of all these we should sit on 4? How do we choose which.

If you're a 10/20+ hu player you get action very very rarely so you need to have some tables of lower stakes aswell.

What if you play 50/100. You sit at 2 25/50 and 2 50/100 and get action about once every 2 days? It's such a stupid idea.

For the people that agree with this we should actually get a letter sorted to complain about the changes. If enough of us complain maybe we can get it back to normal. After all we are the people actually generating all the hu rake ipoker gets. If they realise that this change will do nothing to increase the rake they make and only annoy a lot of players they might think about it.
It's the best for the overall HU community. Read the HU cash regs thread in the HU forum and you'll see if people who barely plays HU wants table number limited...
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12-11-2009 , 12:30 AM
I agree that the limitation could be per stake up to 2 tables though
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12-11-2009 , 12:42 AM
Numeritos i agree with most of the stuff about hu tables i just hate the face that i cant play multi limits properly anymore. The main problem was people hogging 10 tables of 1 limit. We can have the best of both worlds if we do 1 per limit per currency.

I drafted this letter up anyway. Not sure if its any good at getting the point across but feel feel to modify it and post it again. If we can get this done i think it would be by far the best solution!

Dear Sir,

I am writing regarding the recent changes made to ipokers policy on heads up tables. The general consensus of the poker community is that the heads up situation was getting out of control with so many people sitting at empty tables. I am happy that you are trying to find a solution for the problem but i think you have made the wrong choice.

Ipoker recently introduced multi-currency which means there are now lots of limits and currency to play in. Most heads up players choose to play at different stakes because the higher stakes you play the longer the interval is between games.

With your new solution a player who plays $25/50 heads up will be waiting around without games for very long periods of time because he cant sit at lower stakes games aswell. Normally he would play $3/6, Ł2/5, Ł5/10, $5/10 etc games while waiting for action at higher stakes. Now he is unable to though which not only makes it less profitable for him but also for the network as less rake is generated.

The best solution is to make the heads up policy 1 table per limit, per currency. This not only cleans up the lobby so there isnt tons of empty tables but it also gives players the freedom to play at different stakes.

Regards
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12-11-2009 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Qofcards
Been almost 4 days for since my withdrawl to neteller. Anything wrong with vc? My acc is fine, not locked or anything.
VC has not delivered their "monthly loyalty payments" as promised to anyone with the old monthly deal.
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12-11-2009 , 05:05 AM
did ipoker introduce a limit for HU tables you are allowed to sit at?

seems like i can sit at 2x 25/50 and 2x 10/20 tables max
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12-11-2009 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
did ipoker introduce a limit for HU tables you are allowed to sit at?

seems like i can sit at 2x 25/50 and 2x 10/20 tables max
first ive heard about this
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12-11-2009 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
did ipoker introduce a limit for HU tables you are allowed to sit at?

seems like i can sit at 2x 25/50 and 2x 10/20 tables max
yep they did.
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12-11-2009 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
did ipoker introduce a limit for HU tables you are allowed to sit at?

seems like i can sit at 2x 25/50 and 2x 10/20 tables max
Read from about 40 posts back, lengthy talks
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12-11-2009 , 07:23 AM
Nice work Jamsym.
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12-11-2009 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by invisibleleadsoup
anyone else think there's something weird about the lagging problems?

i was playing 12 tables there and they started lagging.when i came back,i still had decisions to make at some of them,although most were timed out. a friend of mine was playing at one of my tables and said i had just timed out,but when i came back to the table my hand was still there...on that table i folded,so its possible i was folded already,but on another table where i "should" have timed out i was still able to call and win.

i know that doesn't really make any sense but i wouldn't put it past ipoker to make some monumental error during the update that could lead to stuff like this happening...

anyway,i'd be curious to know if this is happening anyone else.
Obviously sounds too bizarre to not be in nvg but twice on wednesday night all my tables froze but when i got back in after 90 seconds odd it was as if I hadn't left, still had cards, the same flops, actions, timebank etc. and was allowed to make the bet or call I'd been lusting over, unlike the standard ipoker disconnect where it's **** you. I asked the table if everyone else had lagged and the few responses were negative. So if the entire network didn't freeze how could I be playing in realtime? Again i'm not screaming integrity issues but it doesn't make any sense. Anyone else notice anything similar? I am the friend spoken of in op, rang him because he asked wtf in chat at that table, but my thing was the previous night. It's a quirk so far, but best keep an eye out anyway.
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12-11-2009 , 07:29 AM
fscottfitzgerald btw
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