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08-08-2011 , 09:00 AM
pretty much nothing except that FT are still actively trying to save the company
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08-08-2011 , 12:11 PM
Did anyone else file the claim form a few weeks ago per the PPA legal guide suggestion? Just wondering what the next deadline/step is.
08-08-2011 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GoAheadPutMeOnAK
Did anyone else file the claim form a few weeks ago per the PPA legal guide suggestion? Just wondering what the next deadline/step is.

The PPA suggested not filing claims (as I recall), that we had very slim chances. But maybe that was only to the Absolute poker people. Where are you seeing this??
08-08-2011 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
The PPA suggested not filing claims (as I recall), that we had very slim chances. But maybe that was only to the Absolute poker people. Where are you seeing this??
It was suggested in their Rights and Information Guide
http://www.scribd.com/doc/59876348/P...ds-Legal-Guide
08-08-2011 , 02:42 PM
SUMMARY: the vast majority of players would have a very difficult time demonstrating avalid claim to the funds in the seized accounts; and an equally (if not more) difficult timeprevailing on that claim (which certainly would not happen any time soon). Some players,however, will have unique circumstances that might make the filing of a claim a positivemove. Any player who believes, after reading the above, that they wish to proceed with aclaim should consult an attorney as soon as possible.



I think some people from absolute poker filed claims. I remember that was I asking about this a whole bunch and everyone kind of remained silent. I am super paranoid and assumed that if people did file clams they were quiet about it. Wouldn't it be +EV for the people that filed claims to keep quiet so the fewest people possible file claims? I guess the point is moot, deadline already passed.
08-08-2011 , 06:06 PM
08-08-2011 , 07:32 PM
They said something about that it's public record and there's a decent chance you get audited if you file a claim with a good amount of money in your account so that basically if you file a claim be very sure you were very accurate in paying your taxes the last few years.
08-08-2011 , 09:39 PM
lol some obscenely rich white girl from my college had that as her fb status earlier today
08-08-2011 , 10:33 PM
I miss FTP.

iPoker always had a problem with bots, but it is worse than EVER at NL1k 6max since FTP left the market.

FUUUUUUUUUU
08-10-2011 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jphil007
I miss FTP.

iPoker always had a problem with bots, but it is worse than EVER at NL1k 6max since FTP left the market.

FUUUUUUUUUU
not sure what u mean ? bots at 5/10 ???? seems to me games almost never run ?
08-10-2011 , 10:28 AM
I can't imagine bots are that hard to beat. Obviously long term picture bots are a huge problem, but short term I can't imagine they are all that tough to play against.
08-10-2011 , 11:09 AM
yeah def.... pretty u won't find any of them at 5/10, w/e the site.... (not speaking about shallow/capped tables obv)
08-10-2011 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jij452
not sure what u mean ? bots at 5/10 ???? seems to me games almost never run ?
There is a lot of 6max NL1k games! I'm not talking about FR.
08-10-2011 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jij452
yeah def.... pretty u won't find any of them at 5/10, w/e the site.... (not speaking about shallow/capped tables obv)
Check your database with more attention. These bots are always doing 3-tabling max and they all have the same weird stats.

The worse is that they play 2 bots per table when they can, so they maybe share hole cards if they are connected to the same system.

EDIT: They are not very good, but the 3-tabling thing and the fact that they play 2 bots per table does not look good.
08-11-2011 , 02:37 AM
Maybe you smart people can help me out with a math/strategic question wrt sports betting. (tl,dr)

Ok, so most anyone who is a serious sports handicapper uses the unit system IME. I've been sports betting a long time now but I just recently got "serious" about it.

The unit system is simply a way to track one's bankroll/results and a way to perform proper bankroll management. For example, 1 unit could = $100. The more you like a certain play the more units you would put on that play. Most people bet anywhere from 1-6 units on a particular play. Now, I've been using the unit system for the 2nd half of the MLB season. Or what I thought was the unit system.

So my question is: Is it optimal to risk 1 unit to win X when betting on favorties? (for example betting 1 unit, or $100, on team A at -150 would win you 66.66) Or is it optimal to risk Y to win 1 unit when betting favorites? (betting $150 to win $100) Keep in mind when betting dogs I would risk 1 unit to win X.

I think the consensus among professional sports bettors is to risk Y to win 1 unit when betting favorites. But why is that more optimal than risking 1 unit regardless if you're betting a favorite or dog? I know it has something to do with the juice but it doesn't really make sense to me.

IMO a play is either +EV or it isn't. So by risking more than 1 unit to win 1 unit, aren't you just essentially increasing your units when you bet favorites?
08-11-2011 , 03:14 AM
AFAIK, units are what you bet, not what you win.
08-11-2011 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Rivers
AFAIK, units are what you bet, not what you win.
Not according to Doc's. http://www.docsports.com/unitsystem.html

"So if you are betting $100 per unit you would bet $200 (or $220 to win $200) on a 2-Unit Play. You would bet $400 (or $440 to win $400) on a 4-Unit Play, $600 (or $660 to win 600 on a 6-Unit Play, etc, etc….."
08-11-2011 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jphil007
There is a lot of 6max NL1k games! I'm not talking about FR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jphil007
Check your database with more attention. These bots are always doing 3-tabling max and they all have the same weird stats.

The worse is that they play 2 bots per table when they can, so they maybe share hole cards if they are connected to the same system.

EDIT: They are not very good, but the 3-tabling thing and the fact that they play 2 bots per table does not look good.
oh i see....

actually i was speaking about 6max ;
i haven't played 5/10 6max on iPoker yet but plan on doing so in the very near future - looks a lot like i may have to change my time schedule tho !?!,.... so feel free to share SN of suspected bots ....
08-11-2011 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jij452
so feel free to share SN of suspected bots ....
MP sent.

iPoker doesn't care and does nothing about it, so it is a bad idea to write the name on the forum, because they will just get new accounts on another skin if they are suspected, like they did in the past.
08-11-2011 , 04:13 PM
hey thxs a lot !
08-11-2011 , 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TucoRamirez
Not according to Doc's. http://www.docsports.com/unitsystem.html

"So if you are betting $100 per unit you would bet $200 (or $220 to win $200) on a 2-Unit Play. You would bet $400 (or $440 to win $400) on a 4-Unit Play, $600 (or $660 to win 600 on a 6-Unit Play, etc, etc….."
The whole point of bet sizing and units is to control risk of ruin. Risk of ruin is based on what you wager. If you estimate you have a 5% edge on a bet, you can bet more on it than you can on a bet where you only have a 1% edge, assuming they have the roughly the same variance.
08-12-2011 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry

In court on July 20th in the class action suit, Tiltware's attorney stated in open court on the record that $128 million of credit was extended to American players and of that amount only $9 million remained in the players' FTP accounts. Thus, according to him, there is a shortfall of $119 million.

Well that can't possibly be good.
08-12-2011 , 12:58 PM
blaming the DOJ for the shortfall, brilliant

Spoiler:
i.e. ftp shut down before deposits could be recieved from players
08-12-2011 , 01:46 PM
so we basically were all playmoney poker professionals....

seriously, what's the source of this ?

i mean, i basically decided to stick to subjectpoker for my information on FTP - wich kept me away from spending useless hours reading NVGtards speculations - , but right there i confess i'm really curious....
08-12-2011 , 01:49 PM
the source was said, was in the court
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