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02-20-2019 , 11:14 AM
Both villians are relatively loose passive along with everyone else in the home game.

Again I'm just getting back to getting my feet wet so this might be super standard.

9 handed $200 effective

Pre:
Folds to h in LJ raise to $7 w, KQ, hj, co, and btn call. Blinds fold

Flop ($31): JTT
H checks, hj bets $17, co folds btn calls, hero?

I'm not a fan of calling a paired board w/ a straight draw, many of my outs feel like they could easily fill up a lot of the Tx range that isn't already a boat. But $17 into $82 is really tempting.

Thoughts, also is anyone betting this flop instead of checking?
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02-20-2019 , 11:27 AM
Meh. People love to play JT or TX. I can get behind a bet/fold on the flop vs. passive players, but if called I slow/shut down.

As played, I probably just let it go vs. two players. If they don't already have a boat, AT and T9 could easily be in their ranges.
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02-20-2019 , 01:11 PM
I'd raise more pf; you're going 4 way OOP on the flop here bc the size was so small
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02-20-2019 , 03:26 PM
Preflop needs to be bigger unless the table is exceptionally tight.

Postflop your OOP multiway on a board that probably hit somebody. I would just quietly get out of the way. Way too much of a RIO situation. Odds are you have outs but it isn't clear which ones and it's also likely some (and potentially all) of your outs are dirty.
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02-20-2019 , 05:47 PM
pfr sizing needs to be smaller unless the table is exceptionally good. why do people get this so wrong?

Saying sizing is too small unless the table is tight means, "i want to play against as few people who play bad as possible."

bet flop between 1/3 and 1/2 pot. believe it or not this crushes your range. from the LJ you are betting 55 - AA and AKs - 76s at least. most of that range crushes the board.

Last edited by bailashtoreth; 02-20-2019 at 05:54 PM.
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02-20-2019 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth
pfr sizing needs to be smaller unless the table is exceptionally good. why do people get this so wrong?

Saying sizing is too small unless the table is tight means, "i want to play against as few people who play bad as possible."

bet flop between 1/3 and 1/2 pot. believe it or not this crushes your range. from the LJ you are betting 55 - AA and AKs - 76s at least. most of that range crushes the board.
I'd rather isolate a bad a player than play against 3 of them OOP, bad players make bad calls with wide ranges and our chances of winning the pot post flop increases significantly when we are HU or 3 way

for example , if pf raise was larger and this was HU then you could cb this board pretty easily, don't have to worry about TX as much in a HU situation whereas in this scenario TX is within their calling ranges which increases the RIO
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