Kind of embarrassing I have to post this spot, but comes up all the time and I think I misplay it.

Deep game.

V is a very average player. A bit too loose, fairly conservative, can´t get away from a flush or straight when board pairs and another player goes apeship. The odd bluff here and there, too much slowplaying strong hands, especially vulnerable ones.

5 limpers including V in MP, button makes it $10, SB calls, hero calls from BB AT (pretty sure the whole field going to call), everyone calls.

($80ish) Flop AT7

Hero bets $60, V calls

($140) turn brick

Hero bets $100, V calls

River: 2

Hero??? Plan???

If you're checking turn, it's to induce. You say villain's range is super-wide and he's capable of moves so you can't fold every time an overcard comes. You should check back with the intention of snapping.

Not sure I like calling from the blinds preflop.

Postflop, any reason to think you won't be called by worse? If not, then bet. Whether it's a bet/fold or bet/call (worse two pairs balance hands that beat you) can be debated, I'm thinking it's bet/call mostly.

I would call river. Quads super unlikely. I think the all in guys has a hand like 55 a lot. I think you chop w the V most of the time. Raising and repping overpair trying to fold out Tx is also good I think.

Bet 180 to get called by Ax. Fold to a raise.

3 bet pre flop cookie monster make it 75/80 and take it down

as played, bet/fold the river. We don't want to check and then decide if a psb is a flush or not. A flush will probably raise.

Depends how deep we are.

Never folding pre, so at the least you can call and see a flop.

If > 200bb effective against PFR and most seats, this is a 3b pre, IMO. Sizing would be $30-65 depending on how the table has been playing. Probably fold to a 4b, but sizing would be important.

As played OTF, sizing is too small IMO. Pot or 5/4 pot. And I come back with a 3b.

As played OTT, looks good.

As played OTR, I b/f almost always. 1/3 to 2/3 pot.

I typically bet/fold here $100 unless V is really bad. The sizing still makes V´s call on the turn incorrect with a flush draw. But isn´t V´s most likely holding a flush? I think AJ, A9 will likely fold. Against some villians we can check/evaluate?

I don't know too many "average" villains fold Ax to two barrels. Not to say it's a particularly good nor bad bad play, just that the standard/average live player is sticky with a pair of aces, and even moreso with a decent kicker.

That said, FDs are a significant part of his range, and V will likely play transparently enough to make bet/folding the most profitable play.

Feel like 3-betting to $75/$80 is way too big pre with AT suited ... Not because of the hand, but because there isn't enough in the pot to warrant it. It's $10 over limpers with one caller of the $10. Guessing $45 is just as good preflop if you are looking to take it down. I mean, what would you 3-bet with AA or KK?

This is a new trick I've added to my arsenal (not sure I like it or not yet).

I limp Ad 2d UTG at a $1/$3 game.

MP raises to $17. Two people call. I make it $63. I don't think this is big enough; should have gone $80ish.

Two callers.

Flop Kd Qd 7h. I lead for $85. Original raiser makes it $175. I should 100 percent be shoving here but I just call. Turn is a Js. I check. He shoves. It's only $89 ... A major mistake on my part for not recognizing this or asking for his stack size after the raise.

Rewarded with a 3d on the river.

Limp/reraise isn't always AA obviously (and some people don't care if it's AA 99 percent of the time).

I think you can bet/fold with your stacks at the games you have described in other threads. It all depends on villains in a particular hand, whether they recognize the river card is a good bluff card for them or not. If they are straight forward and will only raise with a flush, then it's an easy bet/fold. You can bet $150ish to get value from an A because 'the pot's so big I had to see it.'

I would only do this if I knew from previous history the OR would give us credit for QQ+ pre.

Love to limp/RR when someone makes a ''pot sweetner raise'' and get a bunch of callers. Nom Nom Nom Nom.

Never getting bluffed unless I bet tiny.

Once that river comes I think we are a dog given the range he can have it his position and then way he has played the hand. He has so many flush draws compared to AJ,A9 etc. I generally bet thinking it gives me more value by getting called by worse, vs check/call and allowing him to value bet a stronger range.

I guess I posted this hand kinda hoping for a brainstorm of ideas in how to maximize EV here.

Can we check and fold vs some v´s? What about a blocker bet(something I have virtually no experience with)?

Kookie: you said villain raises pre from button. First step is you need to work out some kind of range for that. I'm not sure how to interpret the contradiction of "too loose, fairly conservative" -- but, for an average player, a preflop raise puts a ton of pairs and Ax in his range, not necessarily a ton of suited cards.

This is why limp/reraising big hands is so profitable; anyone with half a brain knows what we have, and yet you got 2 callers anyways (way to play in quarter-of-a-brain games, which most low stakes games are). Which is also why it's pretty bad to do this without a powerhouse, imo.

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V overlimped in MP.

Stuff we are ahead of: AJ,AQ (lets discount by 50%), A9s, A7s, A4s (pretend the turn was a 4), A9o=22 combos. I have my doubts that A9 pays off on the river and that we wouldn´t have heard from A7s or A4s by now.

Stuff we are behind: KQ-K3 (9), QJ, J9,J8,98 ,97,87,86:heart :,76,75, 65,54, 77,TT =25combos

Oh, my bad. I thought V was button.

Yeah, b/f is prolly best at this point. I bet small, like 1/4 - 1/3 pot in order to get looked up as lightly as I can.

You didn't include T7, 98, AK. (some or all on purpose, I realize) You're getting a lot of b/f advice because lots of Ax assumed in V range. You're saying, not so much for this V. Interesting that you want to fully discount AK, 50% discount AQ, and no discount to baby flush draws. I assume you're discounting due to preflop.

Blocking bets get viewed as invitations to attack at 2-5 too often, and I'm guessing it might be the same in your deep 1-2. Ideally, I'd like to be able to b/f small here. If you think V rarely bets Aces Up for value here and rarely turns 98 into a bluff, x/f might be best, but I think I'd stubbornly try b/f small anyway (1/3 pot).

Hero has an aggro image. Have run over old guy in previous sessions. Old guy grumbled when hero sat down, immediately asked for a table change. Hero sniffed his armpits and commented that he didn´t smell ''that bad''

$300ish stacks except for hero and BB who have 1Kplus.

Two bad limpers, hero makes it $15 in CO A9, nitty old guy calls on button, BB calls, limpers call (Oh snap!).

($70.50) Flop: T:93

Checked to hero who checks(???), Nit checks

Turn: 9

Checked to hero who bets $50, Nit calls

($169) River: A

Hero bets $100

Flop was puss out, or good candidate for a delayed c bet on brick turns?

nitty old guy is setmining or has two big cards, this board misses most of that. Plus your pair is ahead of most of that and he may call with AK because screw your, that's why. so ya, cbet.

I dont mind a check back for pot control, not a great flop to cbet vs limpers range aswell, alot of 87, QJ, Tx etc. and we dont really want to start building a big pot.

Eh, either way is fine. I would tend to Cbet bc I don't want to give free cards To V and I don't expect him to bluff so there's no value in "showin weakness". You should be ahead here very often

5ways with a T and a 9 on board? I would pretty much never cbet.

Agree with not cbetting the flop but i am betting much bigger on the river here after OMC calls the turn. If he had any draw he's folding to a river bet anyways. He'll grumble, think some young punk is bluffing QJ, and call most of the time

Bet the flop, we can double barrel the turn a ton to get folds from Tx while also getting value from straight draws.