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11-15-2010 , 09:22 PM

mirinmycards

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 287

This was my last hand played last night at a charity card room near me.

Effective stack ~$190

utg+2 raises to $12 (this guy is lose/passive; rarely raises PF; I'd say he limps 75-80% of his hands), hijack calls (loose/passive), cutoff calls (ABC player), i call from SB w/ KcJc, BB folds (pot $50)

flop: 8c 6c Js

i bet $40, all fold

Should I have check-raised this flop? Optimally I would have checked, original raiser bets large, 1 call, I shove.

There are obviously a number of holdings the players could have had here. Pretty large range from broadway cards to suited/gap connectors.

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11-15-2010 , 10:17 PM

OMGitsCheddar

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leading out is fine in general

but if utg+2 "rarely raises" then I'd probably just try to CRAI the flop because I expect his range to be mostly big pairs, thus I expect a cbet very very often

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11-16-2010 , 01:30 AM

Spessit

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Level?

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11-16-2010 , 04:31 AM

madlondoner

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Lead is good as if they are passive too often it will get checked around and you get an ace on the turn which they then start bombing.

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11-16-2010 , 04:36 AM

acescracked84

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I like the lead. I guess nobody had hand. It happens.....

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11-16-2010 , 08:31 AM

quesuerte

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Fold pre.

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11-16-2010 , 09:25 AM

masaraksh

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I especially like the part where you donk bet to save villain some money...

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11-16-2010 , 09:45 AM

canoodles

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Originally Posted by masaraksh

I especially like the part where you donk bet to save villain some money...

I looked through this thread scratching my head until this post.
+1

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11-16-2010 , 07:55 PM

Garick

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I generally hate "fold pre," as an answer, but if a generally passive player wakes up raising, what are you doing calling an easily dominated hand out of the SB???

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11-16-2010 , 08:09 PM

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Redsaddict

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check raise is better. If you are going to bet, bet smaller between $20 an $30. remember, if called, theres a good chance you are drawing too so you want to give yourself direct odds. Also, if you have FE, a b-3b could work nicely here to "TONY G" it and represent a set

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11-16-2010 , 10:33 PM

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masaraksh

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i think given villain i like going for a c/r line here more than b/3b.

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11-16-2010 , 11:19 PM

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samo

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I think calling pre is Ok given that a couple of the opponents are passive, and your alternate plan, regardless of board, would be to play agg post-flop.

I think an 80% pot bet with a monster is over-the-top. If you think the ABC player may take a stab, then I'd try to CR. If not, lead for smaller amount, perhaps $18. If one calls, then you may get a domino effect. Then again and already mentioned, they all may have nothing.

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