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02-15-2023 , 11:10 PM

twitcherroo

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$2/3

H - LP - MAWG - $450ish. Should have tight, value oriented image.
V1 - BB - YWG - ~$400 got stacked earlier vs rando w J3cc vs K6cc on a flush runout.
V2 - EP - YBG - $500 - Loose passive bad player. Never folds flop, will fold turn.

V2 limps, H goes $15 w/ KJo. V1 calls, V 2 calls.

Flop $43
AcTx7x

X, x, H $30. Have solid range advantage here. Fully expect to fire two barrels against V2. V1 calls, V2 folds.

Turn $103
AcTx7x 6c

X, H $65. Still have a huge range advantage but necessarily love the 6c turn. V1 calls.

River $233
AcTx7x 6c Kd

X, having picked up SDV, H checks back?

Thoughts?

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02-15-2023 , 11:30 PM

timmay28

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what’s the purpose of the turn bet/sizing i wonder

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02-15-2023 , 11:39 PM

twitcherroo

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Originally Posted by timmay28

what’s the purpose of the turn bet/sizing i wonder

2/3 PSB is what I would bet w/ AK/AQ trying to get value from V’s 1pr and draw hands.

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02-15-2023 , 11:49 PM

timmay28

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Sounds entirely too fps

Bet $100ish (or give up)

Last edited by timmay28; 02-16-2023 at 12:07 AM.

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02-16-2023 , 05:39 AM

OmahaDonk

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Give up turn, lots of limp caller hands just picked up a gutter or still aren’t folding top pair. Happily check back river, both as played and had we checked back turn.

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02-16-2023 , 12:38 PM

gobbledygeek

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I'm ok with preflop so long as LP is actually LP (i.e. I consider HJ/LJ the most overplayed position).

I'm fine with a cbet but don't think there is any reason to go so large. A <1/2 PSB should get the job done, no?

I'm checking the turn. V1 called with V2 still to react behind him on the flop so he mostly just has an Ace here and is he really folding that?

I'm also checking back the river. Very unlikely to get a call from a worse hand (QT/JT) on this runout with 2 overcards now on board (unless we have a massively bluffy image), and he probably simply had an Ace all along (which I don't think he's folding).

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02-16-2023 , 01:42 PM

NittyOldMan1

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turn bet is lighting money on fire, either bet >$100 or check

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02-16-2023 , 01:54 PM

fatmanonguitar

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It’s hard to push range advantage on an ace high board at low stakes because nobody folds an ace.

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02-16-2023 , 04:42 PM

Javanewt

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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar

It’s hard to push range advantage on an ace high board at low stakes because nobody folds an ace.

This.

Just check back and hope your K is good. Or shove and hope they fold

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02-17-2023 , 01:12 AM

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twitcherroo

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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar

It’s hard to push range advantage on an ace high board at low stakes because nobody folds an ace.

Yup. Got run down by A2o. Felt good about the line but sounds like folks here didn’t like it.

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02-17-2023 , 02:48 AM

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OvertlySexual

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It's multiway and loose passives have tons of Axs, you don't have range advantage vs the combined range of 3 people. You may have nut advantage, but then again, that might be useless if people are intent on calling 3 streets with any Ax. You also said you had KJo, but didn't say anything about the suits. Raise more pre, if you are getting 3 callers consistently.

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