LOL... "extremely common" for guy with KJs to get it in. Don't I wish that were still the case.

LOL even more... 6 players see the flop and Hero leads $125 into pot of $150. Light that $$ on fire... Good luck dodging the rest of the deck.

"Extremely common" would be... 6 players see the flop of K48r and Hero gets his AA shoved up his backside by 84o.

You think no one is calling a raise pre with KT-KQ at 2/5 and below? Hell they flat with AK most of time. Then they are folding to one bet on the flop? LOL ok sir. Must be the nittiest worst game ever and pretty sure it doesn't exist.

OK set mine there then sir...LOL. Sure you are crushing...gl to you. c/f this flop obv

OK wait for AA-KK and limp-rr all day long...let me know your winrate with that strategy..And just so I'm clear you are arguing that players will call with any 2 pre but they are good enough to fold TPGK in the 1st example I present?

MUBS much?

WOW

I'm not accustomed to games where people stack off with TPMK. I see folks fold their K face up here -- yes, even at 2/5NL.

Think about your example... Hero leads the flop for pot. While trying to decide if he's calling, Villain with KJs and has to worry about 2-4 players acting behind him. Even the most ******ed fish who never thinks about anyone else's cards cannot survive this kind of horrific play very long. They'll run out of money long before I get a shot at it.

But anyway, must be nice to play where the fish are willing to stack off with one pair.

I didn't say set mine. But I'm not leading with a PSB into 5 opponents with one pair, regardless how uncoordinated the board is.

Yes. This is live poker. I watch it happen all the time. Pot odds!

Anyway... AA vs. 5 opponents is not more then 50-52%. So keep shoveling money in..

Anyway... AA vs. 5 opponents is not more then 50-52%. So keep shoveling money in..[/QUOTE]

So we need 50-52% equity vs 5 opponents? I think your maths are off there, bud.



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Yes, but you should be doing it with a much wider range than QQ+. Try something like 88+, AQ+, AJs. If a pot sized raise would be 60%+ of your stack, you can jam all of those hands very profitably. If it's less, just raise and then jam most flops if there's just one caller. Think a little if there's more than one. Effectively, you're shortstacking and open raising limpers in a 15/30NL game. This is way more profitable than any sort of regular 1/3 play.