Dealer announces last hand of the night.
Pretty good table a mix of spew monkeys and weak tight players and only 2 other solid players.

Game is 1/2 9 players
I open UTG (350ish) AJ $20

the entire table calls ...family pot

($180)
flop 766

hero leads for $20
Solid player in the bb calls as do 2 spew monkeys villains cover

($260)
turn 5
bb checks

there is some disagreement on how to proceed please enlighten

I wouldn't have raised if whole table is likely to call. I would have just open limped and nutmined.

Flop is a super easy check/shove. Pot is crazy huge (especially in comparison to stacks behind), we have good hand equity against almost every hand, and should have some FE against one pair hands with the scary looking check/shove. I have no idea what the point of a $20 bet into $180 is.

I would just shove the turn. We can never fold with just over a PSB left in this huge pot, even though it's possible we're dead. Straights and flushes can never fold at this point to, so let's just get it in now before the board double pairs (and they can fold). A 6 is unliikely to fold at this point to, so again, let's get it in while we're likely ahead. Having this street check thru 4ways with anyone with a 6 having 10 outs sucks so hard.

Gifyoucheckedtheturn,youmisplayedeverystreet,imoG

Bet flop bigger, as played shove turn, sorry you ran into a full house or a straight flush.

Given the famliy pot, last hand, lets all just say screw it and put money in the pot I think the 10x UTG raise is fine. Granted there's a LOT of variance that you have to be willing to accept here but that's part of poker.

Getting 7 callers is a little bit unlikely of course, but even still we take what we're given.
On the flop, bet bigger. A lot bigger. I like something along the lines of $60-$95.
Side note: This is also very dependent on the stack sizes of the other people at the table which you didn't post.

As played, I think a shove on the turn is best. If you bet a reasonable amount on the flop, a turn shove would be super standard and anything else would be criminal.

GG, are you taking a check shove line here with value hands such as AA - JJ?

Never raisng UTG here at last hand of the night. This how you lose everything.

Checking/betting is fine on flop. You can argue for either/or.

why are you betting flop into 8 other players? no one is better worse hands and someone is very likely to have you beat with 7x, 6x, or 88+. despite the fact that the small $20 bet gives you good odds to draw, there is no reason for it here because 1) you could be drawing dead now or on future streets and 2) more importantly, you're likely to be raised by a bigger pair or a 6.

id c/c if the action behind isnt too heavy. c/f is fine if it gets cranked up and you think you're way behind and don't have the odds to draw.

Prefer limping pf. When you (and at least a few others) are 175bb deep, you're rarely going to want to stack off with top pair otf in a raised multiway pot, and being OOP doesn't help. Limping gets a much more favorable SPR for you to nutmine in a spot where you're likely to get paid off.

I don't understand the $20 flop bet, but as played, just shove turn. Sucks when you run into a boat, but there's a lot you can get value from, and you definitely don't want it checking through.

I'm crawling into my do-over time travel machine if I go to a flop eleventeen ways with AA-JJ.

Gprobablycheck/evaluatingG

shiggity shove

Lol.

Ok. Bet more on flop obv.


As played feel free to bet like 60 on the turn to solicit a ton of calls again.

I wouldn't make a huge bet to try and end the hand, betting for protection is blah. Get some value here please.

Don't know about anybody else, but I wasn't suggesting a turn shove for protection. It's because half the deck makes it difficult or impossible to extract much value on the river, and there are plenty of 6x, straights, and flushes that call a turn shove.

Stay off the pipe, not going to tell you again.

The pot is already huge.....be more than happy to take it down right here uncontested.

Haha. Whatever, you can extract a ton more value still

Lol don't raise pre since people are calling with very wide ranges..
Come on guys

We don't mind lots of callers