Like the title depicts, i'm under UTG with KK, in an afternoon 5/10nl game. We are $2000 effective. Villian 1 is directly to my left and is a winning reg. Villian 2 is in late position, and is a med-high stakes limit player but, sits in this game from time to time, and also wins. It's about 7-handed and everyone is playing pretty solid so far.

I open UTG for 50 with KK. Haven't been getting many callers or seeing too many flops, and usual pre raise has been 40 so far. UTG+1 calls, and so does villian 2 in LP.

Flop (165)

5d 6d 9c

I have the Kd. I lead for 150, and both call with no hesitation. I know villian 1 peels light but, I am concerned about villian 2. He is priced in, and I don't play with him, and at his point have no read.

Turn (615)

4s

I lead for 425. Villian 1 folds. Villian 2 thinks for 20secs, and calls.

River (1465)

3c

Hero?

bet 700 and pray he calls with his TT/JJ

I like a shove if your gonna bet at all. Rep missed diamonds and you might even get a crying call from some very weak pairs. How many straight cards are in his calling range preflop from a UTG raiser? Not many I'd say if he's a competent winning player.

Check and fold to a shove imo. I think if you bet you should pray for a fold and not for a call. I would also check the turn.

C/f is not an option with me in this spot. I feel the river c/f may be one of the biggest leaks in NL, and you will just about never see me c/f a river.

Then a bluff shove might be your next best option. I would prefer to do that with the weaker parts of my range though.

Check-call, let missed diamonds take a stab.

I agree with the never check folding river here. And I don't think I'm ever check calling in this spot either. I think the only way a villain who is a limit player is only betting with a straight on this river or he's bluff shoving and then the decision is on you for the chips. I still like shoving this river all day

I'd limp UTG.

As played, I'd check on the flop.

As played, I'd check on the turn.

As played, I'd probably check/fold the river, but I might check/call depending villain / sizing / timing.

I really do not understand why you want to bet this river. You think A9 is going to call a shove here? Or are you trying to get villain to fold two pair?

Villain called large bets on two streets. He likely thinks he has showdown value, and will check behind anything that you can beat. I don't think busted diamonds is a big part of his range, and he might not even bluff with it, since he will correctly assume that your range is quite strong even after you check. Check/fold here most of the time, imo.

If you are reliably four-barrelling KK 200BB deep OOP with the intention of stacking off, you better have a really crazy image to go with it. Do you four-barrel bluff QJdd here as well, to balance your range? If not, I think you might want to re-evaluate the way that you play KK. You may be giving people the odds to call your early position opens with any two cards.

for the people that say it's a bet, don't you think villain's betting range when checked to is waaaayyyy wider than his calling range?

check/call. he'd only have to be bluffing 1/3 of the time on the river for your call to be profitable. I think there are enough flush draws and pairs turned into bluffs for you to call.

Even if he shoves river are you calling?

WTF? Limping utg w anything good is -EV. Not betting the river for value here is a mistake and so is not betting the flop and the turn. Villlain would have raised sets w the diamonds out there.

yeah that's why i posted the 1/3 of bluffs thing. he has a pot sized bet left by the river.

I'm not calling if I have a read where this guy is a nit and only bets allin river for value. Live players can be very unbalanced here. when I have that info. i will fold, but if i don't i will call.

I check/call. You are hardly ever going to get better to fold with your line. This smells like 54 or some other two-pair for villain, but it's AK and/or diamonds enough for a call.

True. Honestly siting at the table
I don't know If I could shove but sitting On my iPhone here I'm thinking a little differently lol.

I guess I'd be alright with a check call but I really don't think I could
Ever check fold this hand unless I have a pure soul read

Is V2 really calling the turn with any naked diamonds? With our K blocker, aren't all his diamond combos either pairs, straights OTR asides from Ax where x =! 2/7? Or does he peel turn with 10J type hands? I think it's a c/fold or a ship, personally.

On the river I lead for 425, and he calls. He turns up Ad2d for the rivered gutter. If any one of his other outs gets there, it's an easy c/f.

I spoke to him the next day, and he told me that on the turn he felt his A was good, and that was his decision to call. If that's the case then there was no other way for this hand to play out. He would have even called a pot sized bet on the turn.