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08-07-2017 , 02:26 PM

Mythranite

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Hero $300
Villain $180
Villain 2 $220

Hero's first had at the table. $4 straddle. UTG+2, UTG+3 limp, Villain raises to $20, Villain 2 calls $20. Hero wakes up with JJ in MP. What do?

I elected to raise to $100 and Villain shoves for his $180. Villain 2 folds and I call.

Regardless of outcome is this a situation where I overplayed my JJ? I felt that read-less in a straddled pot that I had to go with a raise call it off here.

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08-07-2017 , 02:31 PM

sauhund

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nh wp

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08-07-2017 , 02:37 PM

outdonked

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Oh, Yeh .., You play it well. There's no point to just call and setmine with the effective you described. You got the 5th bets starting hand pre flop
S&M group #1: AA, KK, QQ, AKs, JJ You are fine .. man .. wtf?

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08-07-2017 , 10:42 PM

Mythranite

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Alright, thanks. that's what I thought, but wanted to check on my line of play.

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08-07-2017 , 11:32 PM

yummyhumanbrains

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Do you have any reads on villain?

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08-08-2017 , 12:46 AM

Mythranite

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No, it was my first hand at the table.

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08-08-2017 , 01:05 AM

yummyhumanbrains

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Ugh yeah, then should be fine. When villain pushes, you're probably beat but you can't fold for the times he likely has AK.

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08-08-2017 , 04:55 PM

TripDoggs

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I don't think we should be 3betting to an amount that pot commits us to 100bb effective stacks with JJ. Viable options are small raise to like $50 or just flat call it IMO.

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08-08-2017 , 05:28 PM

TripDoggs

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I suppose if we want to deny set mining odds $60 might be better than $50. Anyone else?

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08-08-2017 , 06:26 PM

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yummyhumanbrains

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Originally Posted by TripDoggs

I suppose if we want to deny set mining odds $60 might be better than $50. Anyone else?

I dunno, there's a fair amount in the pot already. I kinda like discouraging a call instead of encouraging it with JJ. Would agree more with QQ and certainly AA/KK.

What was this guy's raising frequency? Seems people are generally tighter raising pre against a straddle, so I almost prefer a call thinking more.

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08-09-2017 , 08:45 AM

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Mythranite

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Originally Posted by yummyhumanbrains

Completely read-less in this scenario as I had just been dealt this hand as I was taking my seat. However, after playing an entire session with Villain I would definitely prefer a flat over a raise in this situation. Villain is the type of player to flat and not raise AK here.

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