Flop bet was small and wanted to define the strength of his hand. I should have made it more like 150/175 to be absolutely certain when he called that I was done. I didn’t follow my own plan, and my checks led to me calling off on both what I thought were small turn and river bets

The ol "find out where I'm at"...did you find out?

That's not how math works.

Also FYI "Game plays more like 2/5" is roughly the opposite of what you mean, which is more like "Everyone spew raises 13x and nobody 3bets"

Learn how to play multiway pots, this is not online (although I'm sure any online grinders will love 13x opens).

This sounds like a sensible ruling to me. You did something that can hinder your playing abilities (headphone) and because of that I can't help you here.

He has to call the all-in to really find out... oh wait...

not an angle, you should have been forced to call for all of it, you chose to listen to music where you can't hear what people say and didn't confirm the action

that's on you

no pros at 1/2 either

Haha

This specific type of situation will depend upon everyone's personal definition of angling. Some would consider this an angle. Others will say that paying attention is part of the game.

You'd get the same answers if you asked people if Ivey angled people all those times he's moving his hands and chips around the line before making a decision while watching the other player. Some will say it's an angle, others will say it's part of the game.


One could easily argue that poker is in general a game of deception, and that him noticing that player such as yourself tend to make similar mistakes when they have headphones in.....he's just doing what it takes to win the most money, within the confines of the rules.

One could also easily argue that once you decide to put on a device such as headphones that dull some of your situational awareness, that you're now asking the table/players/staff to work around you instead of you being responsible for knowing what's going on.


Personally, I wouldn't put a ton of effort into thinking about it being an angle or not. It's far too inside the rules to matter. Learn from it and keep going.

The bigger lesson is there's no need to be punting like this at soft Texas games. Or most any game for that matter.

Thank you! One can make more working at InNOut or 7-11 than a 1/3 crusher. Can we also stop referring to villains as whales in 1/2 and 1/3 games, too? Outside of rare home games, this just isn't a thing.

If you are playing in a capped game like Vegas, sure.

If you're playing in Texas 1/3 games, you have absolutely no clue what you're saying. There are clubs all around the state where it's very common to have $15k or more on the table at all times. I regularly buy in or top off to $3k or more to match stacks.

If you see "Texas" in front of any game description, unless they specify a low cap, just treat it like 5/10 as far as earning potential. Sometimes better. Until you've experienced it, it's hard to believe.

Take a gander at The Lodge Live Stream and see how quickly their games as small as 5/10/10 balloon to $10k stacks. 1/3 all over the state does the exact same thing, just on a lower scale. That's not just specific to streamed games. It's nuts down here.

Mute your music when you enter a hand.

Not an angle at all imo.

it's pretty much like this at most places

I stand by my statement, no pros at 1-2

I’ve played with 1-2 pros and even in loose passive games I think a solid pro could make 20-50 an hour.

congrats, starting pay at mcdonald's is $18 an hour

also, lol at 25bb/hour over a long term sample

I was responding to your incorrect comment.

An angle is not necessarily something that is against the rules. It is usually something within the rules the rules, but confuses a player into making a play they wouldn't make by making it seem like the angling player did something they didn't do. If villain tried to get OP to call by making him think he was not all in, then it is an angle. Is OP still responsible for identifying angles and clarifying the bet size as all in? Yes.

I think it naive to assume the villain was not trying to make it seem like he didn't go all in. At the same time, it is overconfident to say that he for sure was trying to make it seem like he made a smaller bet. No one will be able to prove this either way.

Also yes, the preflop sizing is really bad. You should use one preflop sizing for all hands. Your bet size preflop should never give away the strength of your hand. The flop raise is also very bad.

what was incorrect, that those are fast food worker wages or that you're assuming a 25bb/hour wage which is not feasible

What does either statement have to do with you saying no pros at 1-2?

Would you prefer to work at McDonalds over playing poker??

Some people have an unusual definition of "pro". It has nothing to do with one's skills, hourly rate, or the pay rate in a fast food restaurant. If someone pays at least most of their bills with poker winnings, they are a pro.

to me it has never really been about the money , it's about not having to put in more than 25 hours a week at something I want to do and not have a boss over my head or a scheduled job.
it's coming to an end soon for me but I had a nice run so I can't really complain.

Doesn't sound like an angle to me. I rarely push all my chips in when I jam. I just verbally declare all in and push out some random stack of chips, usually just whatever is in front of my total stack.

I don't put too much thought into my technique or my opponents' technique for putting chips in. I make a habit of clarifying the bet size before I act.

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What's even more funny is that at least McDonald's will give them health insurance and a 401k. $18/hr as a 1099 is a joke. If someone is a "pro" 1/3 player, at least you don't have to worry about them being smart.

Stop doing this, there is no reason for it and it is only likely to cause problems.