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05-01-2015 , 04:39 AM
this is trivial. of course you are happy to get it all in in this situation. The worst spot you can be in is if you are up against A2 and AA. You would be 22% to win, or need 5:1 go break even. you have to call 120 to win 575. you have to call. this is basic math.
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05-01-2015 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
I should've clarified a bit more but had to post and go. If, after we check, there is a bet and 2 callers I am going to check/flat, yes .. we may be down to just 8 outs.

If there is a bet and all folds back to us, then we c/r all day and run it or take it with some good FE.

I am trying not to let me current streak of 0 for 14 deter me from making the right play here. Yes, I am 0 for my last 14 OESFD when all-in OTF .. no strts .. no flushes .. no runner runner trips ... no results. GL
really?

you know the odds of that happening are 2.64 in a million?
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05-01-2015 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
I'm not saying it's the wrong play, but check/shoving on an A-high board for 125 BB effective in a single-raised pot seems....rash.

Let's say we check and a field player bets $40-45 with an Ace. We jam for whatever the effective stack is. Let's say its $250 based on the HH. It's 1.6-1 to call. How many LLSNL players are folding topsies in this spot? I'd argue not many. Of course, it's read-dependent. But jamming 6-high with little fold equity seems a bit spewey.

Like I said in my initial reply: fold preflop.
We don't need much fold equity at all for it to be profitable because we have a significant amount of pot equity. I mean, FFS we have 42% equity against AA w/o a heart and 40% against AhAx. We have 52% against AxXh, 49% against Ax7h. In fact, the only dominated spot we are facing is if someone has AhKh, but then we still have 31% in a massive pot.

Our opponents don't have to fold often at all for this to be hugely profitable. And a lot of times they call when we are a favorite.

I do, however, agree with folding/3betting preflop. Mostly folding though. A 3 bet prob isn't terrible with the right table dynamics.
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