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Originally Posted by HolidayInTheSun
Based on these posts, is this the order of events?
You notice someone hacked your Skype and is sending out suspicious PMs
You contact Mat Sklansky
Someone accuses you of being a scammer
You non-chalantly point out that the Skype username isn't yours, not mentioning that your account was hacked
Upon further accusations, you finally mention you were hacked
Even later, you suggest that people not do trades with you
The line you should have taken:
You notice someone hacked your Skype and is sending out suspicious PMs
Post in the thread to notify people you've been hacked and not trade with you
Send another PM to the people that your "hacker" contacted clarifying you've been hacked
Change password
Contact Mat Sklansky
Based on what I'm seeing here, or you're either a complete moron, a scammer, or both. In either case, seems the most reasonable thing would be for you to send 10 btc to the man who has been scammed. Even if you're not the scammer, this could have all been avoided had you not been so careless.
OK this is the real sqwerty12 again. My account has now been banned which is understandable to protect you guys but also annoying for me particularly since I couldnt respond anymore in this thread.
This account is an old one I used years ago when there was a 2+2 wide hacking scam so anyway......
I'm typing this in an iPhone now because I can't even open 2+2 on my desktop so I want to be brief.
In response to you. Your chain of events is just plain wrong. I am not a moron and I'm definitely not a scammer. I must say it's interesting to be on the other side of one of these threads for once.
Firstly.....I don't use Skype. That nonchalant post you mention about Skype was not from me. It's from the hacker. My first post was the one where I start defending myself. I didn't say my Skype was hacked. It's my 2+2 account that is hacked.
Secondly. I rarely use PM's as I have no personal contacts on 2+2. The only reason I noticed that message in my sent items is because I have just been in contact with a guy I bought a piece of in a $330 tournament this week. You can read his thread in PG&C and see my involvement. I have no interest in staking people but agreed to do it that instance and bought 2 bullets for $66. I met him at the tournament and gave him his money. This is irrelevant to this thread but I'm just explaining it here to demonstrate why I actually looked at my sent items. I hadn't heard back from the guy in a couple of days and was wondering if I had actually sent it.
Thirdly- when I saw the message in my outbox I was definitely surprised by it and contacted the mods straight away. I got the reply from Mat saying he couldn't do much about it and I can have my account closed if I want. Because i didn't want it closed I didn't do anything.
Regarding the content of that message to KeysToTheCity. I didn't even understand what it was talking about. Obviously a trade of some sort but since there was no reply from Keys I didn't think much of it. I didn't go searching for what it related to DJs I had no idea about this thread.
I get it that you high stakes guys probably deal with this sort of stuff all the time but I don't. I have no interest or need to trade anything and I know very little about it. You say I should pay this guy 10btc. Presumably that's bitcoins. I don't even know how much a Bitcoin is worth, what it is or how I would use it.
You probably think because I have 5000 posts on this forum that everything I'm saying is BS and that I should just know this stuff but the fact is I have no interest or need to use any of this stuff you're talking about and I've never looked in this thread before today.
Just because I'm a 2+2 tragic with 5000 posts doesn't mean I'm a 20 year old poker pro who's up to speed with all the stuff going on here. Go read the threads I post in. I'm sure kingsonpoker has. Do you really think I fit the profile of a scammer? I'm 49 years old with a wife and kids who lives poker and enjoys 2+2.
The only reason I'm responding passionately here is because I'm pissed off my account is now closed, I have no ability to respond to anything other than through this account thankfully and I've got this kingsonpoker guy sending me PM's to an account I now can't access threatening me to sort it out or he'll expose me and set his goons onto me.
I feel bad for the guy and he's obviously coming out of this worse than me but take a step back and look at it from my perspective. At worst I'm guilty of not escalating this once I saw that sent message (which to be honest was an extreme coincidence that I did). And even then what could I do? At the time I thought I could send a message to Keys but since he hadn't responded I just assumed there was nothing more to it.
I get it that I'm to be treated with suspicion as a result of all this. I've read enough 2+2 threads to understand how things work around here but there's not much I can do and I don't think there's a whole lot I can be accused of. I had no messages in either my in or outbox to or from kingsonpoker before today. Clearly the hacker is deleting them as he goes. The only message that was there was the one to Keys which never had a reply.
I sent my phone number to Kings but he hadn't contacted me. I'm happy to chat.
I don't know what more I can tell you but I'm happy to respond if it helps.
Also just re-reading your suggested course of events. I didn't post in this thread warning people because I didn't know of this thread. The only reason I found it is because it appeared at the top of my 'participated' threads list this morning.
As to warning everybody that PM's went out there was only one in my outbox - to Keys. There is nothing to the other guy in this thread that says he received one (Markie?) Or to anyone else. I don't know who he sent them to but having flicked through a few posts now in this thread I can see he seems to have sent them to people who said they'll pay first.
Not that I can check any of this anymore now that my account has been closed.
Also to the mods-
I don't know what your usual course of action is for a forum member from a compromised account (my sqwerty12 account) reappearing under a new account (ie. this account) but I'm assuming it's ok.
I'm only doing so so I can respond in this thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HolidayInTheSun
In either case, seems the most reasonable thing would be for you to send 10 btc to the man who has been scammed. Even if you're not the scammer, this could have all been avoided had you not been so careless.
Knowing this is a highstakes thread I just googled 'Bitcoin' to see what they are, what they're worth and what you're actually suggesting is fair and reasonable.
Seriously.....you guys live in a different world to me.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-27-2015 at 05:28 PM.
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