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How will you play AA in this situation? 1 2 live game How will you play AA in this situation? 1 2 live game

03-13-2015 , 02:55 PM
no reads because its my third hand

CO Hero ($197)
Button ($250)


Hero is dealt AA

UTG limps, EP limps, 4 folds, Hero raises to $12, buttom calls $12, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, EP calls


Flop ($61) 10H9H8D
UTG checks, EP checks, Hero checks, buttom bet $45, 3 folds

can i played it differently? should i led out on flop? the reason i didn't lead out is because i wanted pot control and didn't want to be check raised and face with a tough decision. my plan was to bet or raise or call on turn depending on what comes down. yes i do have AA but the problem is that it was a super wet board and i was playing a multi way pot it was a tough spot on flop. eitherway besides that i jam on turn is because i put her on a draw (which i was luckily correct) because on a such a coordinated board i'm really scared someone flop the nuts/ two pair so thats why i played it slow. no because i was trapping but i wanted pot control

Turn ($151) 3S
hero checks, buttom bets 100, hero pushes all in
River 8S

River 8 spades
Spoiler:
villain shows JK diamonds


note bottom had a stack of 250 i had a stack of 200 this was also my third hand
buttom is a strong regulars girlfriend (presumably had knowledge to the game)

was my logic correct or not? please comment and let me know
thanks!

Last edited by akaaak; 03-13-2015 at 03:18 PM.
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03-13-2015 , 03:06 PM
I am assuming your n key doesn't work. Try and edit your posts so it's easier for people to read. The internet isn't AIM anymore.

I would have raised on the flop. You definitely don't want someone to draw out on you on this board and you want to charge them. Your play is okay and it works. I guess you were planning on jamming on any non heart Q, 6, or 7. I prefer getting it in on the flop as opposed to the turn but the turn card was nice.

Preflop, I would've raised more since this is 1/2. 12 dollars is going to get many callers. 20$ or so.

Beyond that nothing else. Nice hit!
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03-13-2015 , 03:10 PM
Calling the flop for pot control is just silly. There's $150 in the pot after you call, and you've got less than that behind. I would probably lead the flop, but definitely shove when it gets back to you.
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03-13-2015 , 03:11 PM
Not sure how pot control jives with jamming turns. Way I play flop is opponent dependant.
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03-13-2015 , 03:14 PM
Four limp-callers means you didn't raise enough pre-flop
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03-13-2015 , 03:16 PM
Need to check out this thread about posting hands. This post is hard to read. Don't be afraid to use commas and periods. Also check spelling. Button is not spelled "bottom". Don't post results.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-asap-1031043/

I'll give you my response anyway.

PF: Too low. With two limpers, I'd make it $16.
F: (5) handed. Pot is $61. It appears the effective stack is your stack at $200. SPR is 3. Flop is bad for us especially (5) handed. I assume we don't c-bet because we are giving up. Why do we check/call? If we are going to check/call, might as well c-bet. When we call here, we must know we are going with the hand. If we're not going with the hand, we should just fold. Knowing we are getting it in with an SPR of 3, heads up is not horrible here.
T: Heads up. Pot is $151. We've got $143. A blank comes on the turn, so if we called the flop, then there is no reason not to call the turn if we thought we were good on the flop. We know she's not folding for $43 more when we check/raise; it's almost like a call.
R: Doesn't matter what happened. Results don't matter.
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03-13-2015 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by andorrak
I am assuming your n key doesn't work. Try and edit your posts so it's easier for people to read. The internet isn't AIM anymore.

I would have raised on the flop. You definitely don't want someone to draw out on you on this board and you want to charge them. Your play is okay and it works. I guess you were planning on jamming on any non heart Q, 6, or 7. I prefer getting it in on the flop as opposed to the turn but the turn card was nice.

Preflop, I would've raised more since this is 1/2. 12 dollars is going to get many callers. 20$ or so.

Beyond that nothing else. Nice hit!
thanks i changed the formatting too lol hope i'm right and yeah my plan was to jam any blank

Last edited by akaaak; 03-13-2015 at 03:25 PM.
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03-13-2015 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Calling the flop for pot control is just silly. There's $150 in the pot after you call, and you've got less than that behind. I would probably lead the flop, but definitely shove when it gets back to you.
true
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03-13-2015 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ShermanTank
Not sure how pot control jives with jamming turns. Way I play flop is opponent dependant.
that was my plan that's why i didn't bet on flop...but it didn't work out that's why i'm seeking other options...

Last edited by akaaak; 03-13-2015 at 03:27 PM.
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03-13-2015 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Below Zero
Need to check out this thread about posting hands. This post is hard to read. Don't be afraid to use commas and periods. Also check spelling. Button is not spelled "bottom". Don't post results.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-asap-1031043/

I'll give you my response anyway.

PF: Too low. With two limpers, I'd make it $16.
F: (5) handed. Pot is $61. It appears the effective stack is your stack at $200. SPR is 3. Flop is bad for us especially (5) handed. I assume we don't c-bet because we are giving up. Why do we check/call? If we are going to check/call, might as well c-bet. When we call here, we must know we are going with the hand. If we're not going with the hand, we should just fold. Knowing we are getting it in with an SPR of 3, heads up is not horrible here.
T: Heads up. Pot is $151. We've got $143. A blank comes on the turn, so if we called the flop, then there is no reason not to call the turn if we thought we were good on the flop. We know she's not folding for $43 more when we check/raise; it's almost like a call.
R: Doesn't matter what happened. Results don't matter.
thanks...i changed the formatting hope it helps now lol sorry for the inconvenienced caused
good break down of the hand here but when you get raised or check raised what will you do here? will u fold or that's just player dependent
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03-13-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Calling the flop for pot control is just silly. There's $150 in the pot after you call, and you've got less than that behind. I would probably lead the flop, but definitely shove when it gets back to you.
i do have to agree with you on the stack size issue but if i lead here and get raised or check raised what do i do? is it player dependent?
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03-13-2015 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by akaaak
but when you get raised or check raised what will you do here? will u fold or that's just player dependent
Well, the SPR is 3, so just by SPR standards, getting it in isn't bad. Now, we are (5) handed though, so we can't rely on SPR alone. Say we Cbet and the button raises and everyone folds, I'm probably just shoving, but yes, it is player dependent. Obviously if a nit is raising me on the button, I'm probably just folding, but for others, they can have pair+draws, draws, TPTK in their range that I would probably just shove.
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03-13-2015 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Below Zero
Well, the SPR is 3, so just by SPR standards, getting it in isn't bad. Now, we are (5) handed though, so we can't rely on SPR alone. Say we Cbet and the button raises and everyone folds, I'm probably just shoving, but yes, it is player dependent. Obviously if a nit is raising me on the button, I'm probably just folding, but for others, they can have pair+draws, draws, TPTK in their range that I would probably just shove.
thank you i guess i got my answer now thanks guys!
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03-13-2015 , 04:11 PM
Bet flop and decide (only fold to completely absurd action).

If BTN calls the flop, ship the turn.
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03-13-2015 , 04:14 PM
Since several had given advice on posting, allow me to add 1 thing:
Very hard to follow the board, for me anyways.

When you're making your post, there are icons for the different suits to the right of the emoticons at the bottom.

That's so you can post flop: T98
Then, you can copy/past that for the turn [when you post flop, elicit advice & then post turn, etc.]: T98 [3]

It doesn't make any difference to numerous posters whether you do it or not. To others it does.
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03-13-2015 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
Since several had given advice on posting, allow me to add 1 thing:
Very hard to follow the board, for me anyways.

When you're making your post, there are icons for the different suits to the right of the emoticons at the bottom.

That's so you can post flop: T98
Then, you can copy/past that for the turn [when you post flop, elicit advice & then post turn, etc.]: T98 [3]

It doesn't make any difference to numerous posters whether you do it or not. To others it does.
sorry for the inconvenience caused
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03-13-2015 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by akaaak
sorry for the inconvenience caused
No need to apologize. Those who post their hands as I suggested are in the minority I believe. I just don't bother breaking out paper & pen to figure out how the hand went down & the betting, pot sizes on each street unless it's a popular thread, indicating I may be missing out on something special.
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03-13-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by akaaak
no reads because its my third hand

CO Hero ($197)
Button ($250)

Hero is dealt AA ...

UTG limps, EP limps, 4 folds, Hero raises to $12, buttom calls $12, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, EP calls
Early in the game, no reads yet, three potential callers behind and two confirmed callers in already: too soon to worry about balancing ranges here. I'd pop it for 25 -- 30. You don't have a read on them, and they don't have a read on you. There's still a chance you can get a call and not have to play AA into a big field on the flop. If they all fold, you still get the dead money, and that's always better than stacking off because you didn't have a read on your opponents.
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03-13-2015 , 05:42 PM
I think you played it right. Want to see a safe turn card because, on the flop even a hand like JT/78 is 45% against you. If you ship the flop you are either barely ahead or WAY behind. Seeing a safe turn really ups your equity
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03-13-2015 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyuubimon
Early in the game, no reads yet, three potential callers behind and two confirmed callers in already: too soon to worry about balancing ranges here. I'd pop it for 25 -- 30. You don't have a read on them, and they don't have a read on you. There's still a chance you can get a call and not have to play AA into a big field on the flop. If they all fold, you still get the dead money, and that's always better than stacking off because you didn't have a read on your opponents.
that's true in some way but wouldn't 25-30 be too much? i say 20 would be good
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03-13-2015 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ohmyrage
I think you played it right. Want to see a safe turn card because, on the flop even a hand like JT/78 is 45% against you. If you ship the flop you are either barely ahead or WAY behind. Seeing a safe turn really ups your equity
that was my mentality when i played last night
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03-13-2015 , 11:54 PM
raise more pre. Bet flop.
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03-14-2015 , 08:21 AM
I wouldn't worry about pot control with an SPR of 3. I'd raise more pf, bet the flop and then go from there.
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