Live £1/£1 cash game, we are both deep I have £220, Villain covers.

Villain in this hand has been TAG and has showndown few hands but generally uncontested.

4 to the pot limped, Villain is in MP, Hero on the BUtton with T 9

Flop is T 5 T, UTG bets 3, MP raises to 12, Hero calls 12, the rest Folds.

Pot 31, Turn A Villain bets 20, Hero calls 20.

Pot 71 River 2 Villain bets 35, Hero raises to 70, Villain shoves, Hero??

Raise preflop, don't raise river. fold now. gg.

yea again if the read you have on him is right then hes not calling ur raise here with 10 8 on river. you have to fold to his river shove.

i dont mind the minraise to much but what is Vil RRing flop and then leading out on an A here? If he has Ax type hand you would assume hes not RRing the flop and more then likely wont be limping preflop unless he has A10, which is a std limp hand for many.

So lets say he has 88-99 or even JJ, once you call the turn Vil has to be shutting down on river not VBing a redic amount.

This one was tough, esp after when I folded and showed the T, he said wow, I could never fold that, and eveyone and his mother commented that they would have shipped it in quicker than they could. However these are guys happy to get stacked on a pair.

i don't like the river raise when you are this deep. probably a fold as played. maybe raise on an earlier street? not sure though

Dont cold call 3bets with T9? T9 is actually a pretty horrible hand. Soooted or not.

lol... you effed up the hand and then you compound the mistake by showing the ten? dont show ever.

not really a 3bet - just a limped pot and it went bet.. raise on the flop and then OP calls.

I think FOLDING flop there or RAISING are both worse than calling.

Cold call river, plz. You are outkicked way too often to re-open betting on river, but folding to original river bet when you've shown no particular strength is too weak.

As played, fold river.

He meant pre-flop.

OP said "UTG bets 3" but what he meant was "UTG raises to 3."

Villain's pre-flop raise was a 3-bet.

As played, the only hand I think has hero beat is AA. Villain's not 3-betting with AT or less, or 55 or 22. Villain's action, especially the river shove, does strongly indicate AA, but that is only one specific hand.

OP: Have you seen him 3-bet pre-flop with less than KK? If you had, I might find a call here, but I'm still leaning toward folding. I hate to fold when there is only one hand that he is likely to hold that beats us, but the problem is there aren't many other hands he could shove the river with, unless you have been playing weak-tight and he is trying to exploit that.

What was your table image prior to this hand? I think that might be more important to interpreting his river shove than any other piece of information. You said he was winning a lot of pots before showdown - that could indicate that he is good at sensing weakness.

How often has he re-raised big and/or shoved prior to this hand?

[ ] Reading comprehension ITT

Pre-flop was limped. UTG bet flop. Villian raised flop.

No three-bets in this hand until river shove.

Yeah I misread. My bad.

Me too.

Disregard my post above.

Figure out more about villains game than TAG, until then call, call, call. Mini raise is horrendous.

if you say he is TAG, then what worse hand than you is he raising flop and then betting both turn and river with? i wouldn't even be that happy about calling him on the river. do you expect a tag to show up with a lower kicker than you ever?

he might have said that he couldn't have folded your hand but that doesn't mean you shouldn't fold your hand. only that he was hoping that you wouldn't fold. he probably has something like 55 or AT. maybe occasionally JT,QT, or KT if he is limping all sorts of hands from MP, but that wouldn't really make him TAG anymore.

fwiw, this is exactly how i would play 55 and maybe ATs if i was villain.

I would just call the river. If he has 55 or a better 10, you find out and you get off cheaply. He probably has 55.

What is this, 2003? What's with the call/call/minraise line postflop?

As played, fold the river, he's never doing this with worse unless he's really bad. It's tough for him to have worse anyway since there are virtually no worse playable T's

This has to be a joke/level. I know we all realize by now that it was a limped pot, so I can't see what the problem with T9s is.

Yes, I agree, the min raise at the end is Terrible. I think I made a good fold, and I guess I wanted to show the T so it was clear I have no problem folding a hand that strong.

What is interesting is that as I know this was poorly played I have sought advice from Poker playng friends and randoms at the poker club I go to.

The majority of under 25 said it was a "standard" fold, whilst older 35+ guys said they would have shoved all in on the river.

Can anyone explain how, knowing the facts as they are, would have played my hand?

Additionally, thank you for all the advice and critique.

You mean you wanted to show off about how good you were. This is a feeling that is entirely natural but if you are going to do it, stop lying to yourselves about the motives. Most people want admiration from there peers. In this case, it is unlikely to make any difference to the game dynamics but it is not a good habit to get into in general.

In terms of still asking about how you should have played it, I can't help feel you are focusing on all the wrong things. You are focusing on this hand because you had trips and lost money. As all the replies so far have said, you should play this hand EXACTLY like every other one.

By that I mean evaluating what others are holding AND what they will do with said holdings through all streets, on a variety of turns/rivers, faced with different lines by you and other opponents. Then take your cards into account and take the most profitable line.

Normally this will go along the lines of, he has a hand better than mine and won't ever fold, therefore I fold.

Occasionally, I have the best hand and thy won't fold. Now i bet raise.

On this particular hand, the pot is limped pre and somebody raises on a 10 10 5 flop. Straight away you can start to assume he has a 10 minimum, unless you have observed particular play from this opponent before where his betting does not represent his hand strength. So, he probably has a 10, probably better than ours due to his limping range and he won't be folding at any point in the hand.

Now we realize we can't bluff him, and we probably don't have the best hand. The mixture of him possibly having 66-99 plus implied odds v 55 10k etc if we hit our 9 mean we call flop. Turn could even be a fold, depending on our read of guy/certainty he isn't over valuing something worse etc. BUT the ace gives us more chopping outs v some of his range, we might still have the best hand, could still improve so calling here could be OK depending on the weighting of lots of different considerations. GIVEN HIS LINE THE CHANCES WE HAVE THE BEST HAND ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. You have to decide how small.

On the river you don't go "OMG IS HAZ TRIPS I RAIZZZE". You go After his betting line, I am not ahead often enough to make this a profitable call. Fold.

I realize I said to call river in a previous comment. It was just a quick response to highlight how bad the river raise was. In most cases the river is a clear fold without read, which you didn't provide in OP.

I agree with 95% of what you said there, apart from 'showing the T to show how good I was'.

I think I showed because a) i had tanked for a while and someone had called clock on me, so i wanted to show that I had a decision, b) I respect a few of the guys on table opinions and wanted to aks advice and if I had said a T the may have not believed me, but that is meh, and c) showing i can fold a T here is good for meta game, next time in that spot i may min raise with the nuts, someone goover the top of me and call, (that is a loose def of metagame right?)

However, I appreciate your answer it was very informative and this is what helps my game, so Thank you

Ok, you are welcome. Yes that is metagame, no that wan't happen :-)

Well played until river. Your hand is marginal, a bluff catcher. Generally don't raise the river in 1/2 unless you can stack off.

In a limped pot trips play like top pair in a raised pot. Its in a raised pot against the original raiser than your hand has real value.

In this case the villain raised and you called the flop. He says I have a ten or better and you say I have a ten. He fires into the ace on the turn and thats strong because you already told him you have a ten. So unless your image is capable of warping his range you can actually fold a damn nine kicker right there.

I would have raised pre flop. Which really changes the whole hand. As played I can't imagine what you're possibly trying to do with the river raise. You've cold called a 3b on super dry flop then a turn barrel. Your hand is basically face up as Tx unless they think you're an idiot.