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09-17-2008 , 04:54 AM

WotaWaster

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 301

So I finally upgraded from PT2 to HEM and was kind of shocked to see how much money I am losing without showing down.
Does this graph prove I am just a huge fish with good game selection?

http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?i...inningstd7.jpg

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09-17-2008 , 08:03 AM

Belok

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,608

pretty standard, and actually yours is probably better than most regs

good selection

p.s.
"Does this graph prove I am just a huge fish" usually isnt asked about a graph that ends up 133k

. Unless it is a grimstarr graph.

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09-17-2008 , 08:29 AM

Imaginary F(r)iend

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,198

Is this seriously a standard? My showdown-winnings are just a little bit positive and non-showdown winnings are much higher. I consider myself as a semi-aggressive tag...

You must play tricky, teach us.

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09-17-2008 , 09:35 AM

lok1

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10

Could you please post the bb figures, without that it is really hard to say if your stats are fishy.

If you have 15bb/100 or 1.5bb/100, that´s the key here I would say.

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09-17-2008 , 10:52 AM

WotaWaster

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 301

I'm at about 8-10 genuine bb/100 or 4-5PTBB/100 spreading Nl200-NL1000 mainly at Nl400 though.

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09-17-2008 , 10:55 AM

WotaWaster

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 301

Also my first impression was that it looks like I am being paid off when I flop a set vs a fish's top pair mediocre kicker and I am good at extracting value from them, however when it comes to mixing it up with regs they are taking me off hands all over the place.

I guess this is not necessarily the case and having negative winnings in non showdown pots is OK?

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09-17-2008 , 11:22 AM

lok1

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10

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Originally Posted by WotaWaster

Well, aren´t you answering yourself here? Adapt and play back more on regulars and keep playing as you do against fishes since they will not adapt obv.

10 bb/100 over 450k hands is a very good result so probably the changes you need to do are small I would say.

Since poker is about winning money, you are doing a good job. What is important is to maximize your bb/100 (or bb/h) so if your style is not the new hot thing (LAG) it doesn´t really matter unless you feel that you can make 15bb/100 or so playing LAG.

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09-17-2008 , 12:53 PM

Body Man D

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,993

My graph is similar to yours except the green line isn't as large.

I guess it's a combination of things that make it this way. I think in my case, not value betting thin enough on the river when i'm ahead is a big one. This increases the showdown winning line and doesn't decrease the non showdown winning line when villian would probably fold. It doesn't effect the overall wining much, but increases the difference between showdown and non showdown lines fairly drastically.

Last edited by Body Man D; 09-17-2008 at 01:02 PM.

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09-18-2008 , 04:52 AM

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,397

Note that all the crap that you fold in the blinds counts as a loss without showdown. It is pretty hard to get all that back. So I wouldn´t worry about that particular stat too much.

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09-19-2008 , 03:55 AM

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Delphi

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 618

Thinly veiled brag.

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09-19-2008 , 08:22 PM

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WCGRider

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,028

Yeah this is pretty standard id say most regulars probably are the same or worse then yours. I know my fr graphs are all worse = (. So yeah this is fine.

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