V1 Co old man, quite tight havent really seen him play much, fit or fold OTF saw him limp AA then 3!jam OTB for 33bbs effective (he had about 65 bbs)
V2 BB knows what he's doing, been raising IP and 3! OOP, he's been exploiting the table before I sat down raising a wide range for value, in turn I've been 3betting him wide for value (3! A10s in the sb checked it down to river and we chopped on a 23455 runout Vs his a9o for $120) and got him for AK Vs KJs betting tptk) he's started folding to my 3! Rather than 4betting light, he still calls anyone else's 3! At the table (hand specific doesn't know how to calculate pot odds and called an OESD for $120 OTT in a $80 pot vs another opponent)
Hero sat down for 30 minutes, shown down very strong holdings, dealt KK twice prior to this and lost stacks both times from getting sucked out on. Down $230 already been extremely active at the table probably seen as a slag (although I've only been playing a tight range, preflop cards have been great)
Hero:$180
V1:$120
V2: $275
UTG limps
Hero opens K♠️️Kx in MP for $10
V1 calls
V2 defends
UTG calls
Flop $41
8♠️️5♠️️3x
V2 leads out for $20
UTG folds
V1 calls out of turn
I make the call
I think about putting in a raise, but I'm essentially commuting myself to a 3! Jam which I don't like. I hold a spade blocker and I know that a raise here is NOT folding out a flushdraw from either player, if it misses V2 will continue to bluff, and id like to keep his range wide, not overrep my hand and have a little bit of pot control.
Turn:$101
7x
V2 now leads out for $30 I'm not scared he made a straight, but it really looks like a blocker bet from a competent villain rather than a made hand basically just a set in this instance. I think he'd size more around $55-$60 to setup a river jam on a non spade if he had a set, so I'm leaning more towards a fd here
V1 once again calls out of turn 😂
Hero:???
I think it's time to go for a raise and get some value, 8x might call a small raise but I want that flush draw value especially given the hh of V2.
A normal 3x raise would only be $90 which is less than the pot ($121) is this a spot where I just GII? After a $90 raise if he calls and spade miss I'm not really getting any value, if a spade does hit, it lets me get away for $60 but I'd rather that $60 go in as it's +ev money if it's in the pot OTT against a fd
if I hadn't seen out-of-turn call I'd put in a raise to $70 and stack off. I'm getting value from overpairs, draws, and dumb stuff. Now that I've seen the call, the only change I'd make is to raise to $80-90 instead.
As played the 7 is not a great turn card, raising the turn is almost overplaying our hand, but against these awkward little donk bets I just kind of like to pretend I'm betting and ignore them. Get some chips in the middle. The flop is a better time to raise than the turn, though, imo.
Even against these 2 Vs? Normally I would raise, but this play r never donks out, he knows what he's doing, if he 3bets OTF am I really that comfortable getting it in?
