Yeah, now i understand wj and i for sure agree as you can see by my previous posts here. Was a little bit unsure of how to read your lol comment at first

Did the other guy show? Look like he got away with one?

I usually tell people "good fold" also when they fold the winning hand and I get the pot, because in reality, it was a good fold for me.

The fact of the matter is V is an unknown and its $165 to call a pot that is about $730. He only needs to be good 18% of the time. AK plays this hand probably exactly the same. If V does this with exactly {AA, 1 combo AK} it's a fist pump call. That's how ridiculess this is. 1 combo of any other hand makes this a fist pump call (not to mention V could have flopped a set of XXX, whatever that card was)

Honestly, if you think this guy is solid, you probably need to assess your own game to figure out why you think he is good because many have pointed out poor decision making in his 1 hand that you just glossed over

And most probably: sorry you folded your full house

If somebody folded a hand like that to me and actually showed it, I would say "good fold" too. I wouldn't have to have AA either. So that statement means nothing as to what the heros read was worth. Badly played hand by hero despite him being described as competent by OP!

Hero should not 4! to $100 and not ship all flops, instead OP should spend some time trying to figure out why he called Hero a competent, thinking reg when they raised preflop and called a 3! with a garbage hand. You can make a case that Hero was balancing his range, but with these stacks and bad position, this should be a fold to the 3!

bah, so much for color coating like the olds days....

OP, the most important thing you can get out of this thread is that if you feel the Hero in this hand is competent, it can only be because you yourself are not competent enough to recognize all of his leaks. Hero played this hand so terribly that it's basically impossible to imagine he makes up for all these leaks in other ways. Instead of praising Hero for "saving" his last $150, you should notice how he should never have lost the first $285.

Hero is not a competent player lol. If you truly think he is, you are undoubtedly a horrible player yourself.

I honestly don't believe hero's actions on the river. I never encounter any situation when the opponent folds the river with FH after investing so much in the pot up to that point. Sorry, but my way of thinking poker doesn't fit with yours. I suspect all this story is an invention.

well guys if you don't believe me what can I say. I was at the table and saw the hand.
Funny how all the vitriol and insults fly. Forum talk lol. time to shut down the thread.

our views are often skewed by what we remember... you can be 95% of the time right but if those doesn't make up for the 5% of the times we are wrong we still loose all our money...

I have seen this **** over and over again at 2/2 and 2/4 tables generally because the second nuts checks behind and goes to showdown... the table would be stunned and the second nuts would say... he could have XX, the one combo that has me beat. I can't remember a single time where the second nuts was beat after making this type of soul read on the river. NITS are everywhere and hero in this case is clearly a nit or very weak tag. you can adjust your read on hero and start making tons of money vs him

Plenty of hands make sense here...

Op... Hero could be having a bad day and maybe they don't usually play like this but you posted the hand here asking for an opinion and you've gotten quite a few. Be open minded enough to St least take the advice given and keep an eye if this player makes plays like this regularly.

I love when people state that it's "time to shut down the thread". OP, since you're new, you probably don't know that threads, though started by a poster, are not the OPs to determine the specifics of what people talk about and when they should end. Once you post a thread, the community determines what is relevant to discuss and when to stop discussing it (unless a mod comes in because of trolling or people get way off topic)

Exactly.

I would also add that OP for sure will have alot more benefits of actually listen to the posts and arguments he has gotten in this thread- compared to going into defensemode/denial, and put out request to get the thread shut down.

Someday your hero will make such a fold, it will be a good one and he will be happy. He will be able to afford a shrimp cocktail at Golden Gate downtown with the saved bet and maybe even treat a friend. Feeling like a champ, he will do it again someday. But, this time a guy with A2s will drag your pot, he’ll buy the cocktail waitress a fur coat and f*** her blue for a week. Now which guy do you want to be? The smart one with the shrimp cocktail or the stupid one with the sore dick?

Someday your hero will make such a fold, it will be a good one and he will be happy. He will be able to afford a shrimp cocktail at Golden Gate downtown with the saved bet and maybe even treat a friend. Feeling like a champ, he will do it again someday. But, this time a guy with A2s will drag the pot, he’ll buy the cocktail waitress a fur coat and f*** her blue for a week. Now which guy do you want to be? The smart one with the shrimp cocktail or the stupid one with the sore dick?

I'm not justifying Hero's player, just saying how bizarre it was for him to fold after all that. I certainly would have called.

And I am not adverse to taking Hero's money. He's a regular at my casino, we are friendly but I am still there to win.

As I said, I am not even the player in the hand. I agree Hero played this very badly all the way, as most of you alluded to.

In the overall scheme it is one hand, I got your opinions and that's all.

I am not defending Hero's play as I would have done differently.

But then questioning Heros' "competence, abilities" is rather pedantic.
I know Hero, have played with him. None of you have.

Even the greats like Phil Ivey, Hellmuth, Negreneu make bad plays. Doesn't mean they are bad players.

How good can the guy be if he's raising A8 in EP and calling 3-bets with it?

If you're doing that though, can't fold otr. The whole hand is god awful but at least getting ai on the end would show commitment to the terrible plan that started pre.

Hero's mistake was betting the flop. There are a number of reasons to bet the flop in this spot; that number is very small and very close to zero.

Hero seems to be the type of aggro-spazz who bets "to find out where he is."